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For Acrobat, we have been looking at Qoppa's product - http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/ - which I found to be remarkably similar to Acrobat in functionality and actually a bit easier to use.  Pricing is very, very close to an Acrobat-only ETLA and gets us out of having any Adobe footprint.

Otherwise the products from that link have been prominent.  Gimp, Kompozer or SeaMonkey, and then a few other products here and there.  We don't have a huge user base for the full CS lineup but there are viable alternatives.

Ton of conversation on this on the Licensing list.
allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


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Thanks Allen. We have had a lot of conversation on the Licensing list on alternatives to Adobe and other vendor products. I am bouncing along in a car so not easily able to do a search and cut and paste results but a query like EDUCAUSE licensing adobe alternative will pop up some of pop up many conversations

Sent from my iPad
Margaret (Marg) H. Knox
The University of Texas System

On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Allan Chen" <achen@MENLO.EDU> wrote:

For Acrobat, we have been looking at Qoppa's product - http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/ - which I found to be remarkably similar to Acrobat in functionality and actually a bit easier to use.  Pricing is very, very close to an Acrobat-only ETLA and gets us out of having any Adobe footprint.

Otherwise the products from that link have been prominent.  Gimp, Kompozer or SeaMonkey, and then a few other products here and there.  We don't have a huge user base for the full CS lineup but there are viable alternatives.

Ton of conversation on this on the Licensing list.
allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


[sent to both lists]
Grant,
How will your RFP consider free options?  Will it do so at all?

allan



Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Allan:

If a 'free' provider chooses to respond, they will be evaluated accordingly; although there will be questions on what value such a contract could bring to institutions … unless the solution is not 'free' in all respects. We could negotiate beneficial Ts&Cs in such cases.

Grant.

On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:25, Allan Chen <achen@MENLO.EDU> wrote:

[sent to both lists]
Grant,
How will your RFP consider free options?  Will it do so at all?

allan



Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Be nice if what was “worked out” was a universal plan for Higher Ed….. I agree we all don’t want to be on the call, but are interested in the out come….

 

Dr. Robert Paterson

Vice President – Information Technology, Planning and Research

Molloy College

Rockville Centre, NY

 

Would be nice if Adobe indicated some kind of understanding that this is a relaly, really widespread concern.  I guess if they're willing to take even 50 people on that's a good sign.

I didn't say "me too" and to be honest I"m confident that those in this group will represent the interests of everyone effectively, even a 700 student school like ours.  

I look forward to whatever is next...
allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Message from mike.cunningham@pct.edu

Has anyone looked into alternatives to Adobe products if this continues as planned?

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Chen
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:04 PM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Adobe conversation

 

Would be nice if Adobe indicated some kind of understanding that this is a relaly, really widespread concern.  I guess if they're willing to take even 50 people on that's a good sign.

 

I didn't say "me too" and to be honest I"m confident that those in this group will represent the interests of everyone effectively, even a 700 student school like ours.  

 

I look forward to whatever is next...

allan



Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889

 

Other than Reader, I am not much of an Adobe user/fan, but I did find this through Google:


It may be worth a look. 

Cheers, 

Frank
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

F. X. Moore III Ph.D.
Associate Provost: Information and Technology Services and CIO
Pacific Lutheran University
12180 Park Avenue South
Tacoma, WA 98447-003

(253) 535-7504 [voice]
(253) 535-7315 [fax]

moorefx@plu.edu



+1

This link works better:

David Bantz

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, at 12:24 , Frank Moore <moorefx@PLU.EDU> wrote:

Other than Reader, I am not much of an Adobe user/fan, but I did find this through Google:


It may be worth a look. 

Cheers, 

Frank
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

F. X. Moore III Ph.D.
Associate Provost: Information and Technology Services and CIO
Pacific Lutheran University

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For Acrobat, we have been looking at Qoppa's product - http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/ - which I found to be remarkably similar to Acrobat in functionality and actually a bit easier to use.  Pricing is very, very close to an Acrobat-only ETLA and gets us out of having any Adobe footprint.

Otherwise the products from that link have been prominent.  Gimp, Kompozer or SeaMonkey, and then a few other products here and there.  We don't have a huge user base for the full CS lineup but there are viable alternatives.

Ton of conversation on this on the Licensing list.
allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Thanks Allen. We have had a lot of conversation on the Licensing list on alternatives to Adobe and other vendor products. I am bouncing along in a car so not easily able to do a search and cut and paste results but a query like EDUCAUSE licensing adobe alternative will pop up some of pop up many conversations

Sent from my iPad
Margaret (Marg) H. Knox
The University of Texas System

On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Allan Chen" <achen@MENLO.EDU> wrote:

For Acrobat, we have been looking at Qoppa's product - http://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/ - which I found to be remarkably similar to Acrobat in functionality and actually a bit easier to use.  Pricing is very, very close to an Acrobat-only ETLA and gets us out of having any Adobe footprint.

Otherwise the products from that link have been prominent.  Gimp, Kompozer or SeaMonkey, and then a few other products here and there.  We don't have a huge user base for the full CS lineup but there are viable alternatives.

Ton of conversation on this on the Licensing list.
allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Following on to Mark Cunningham's question on the CIO list yesterday, regarding a supply for Adobe-workalike products -- As a result of a decision by our Technologies Committee, the Midwestern Higher Education Compact expects to go out to RFP for such products in the next few months. Because of MHEC's legislatively-created nature the resulting contract(s) will be usable by public and not-for-profit higher education institutions in our 12 states (IL, IN, IA, KS, ND, NE, MI, MN, MO, OH, SD, WI) without RFP by the institution. K-12, cities, counties, other local government, and state government may also be covered. In all probability the contract(s) will also be usable in the WICHE states, and may even be usable in SREB or NEBHE states. Nathan Sorensen from our office will be staffing this volunteer-lead initiative. R. Grant Crawford Chief Information Officer Midwestern Higher Education Compact 105 Fifth Avenue South, Ste 450 Minneapolis, MN 55401 http://www.mhectech.org ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Grant, will you share with CIO list Sent from my iPad Margaret (Marg) H. Knox The University of Texas System
I think this is a great idea!! Chip Chip Eckardt CIO University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire 105 Garfield Ave. Eau Claire, WI 54701 Phone 715-836-4636 ext. 362381 eckardpp@uwec.edu
I'm pretty sure I did. Grant. On Apr 11, 2013, at 09:40, "Knox, Marg" wrote: > Grant, will you share with CIO list > > Sent from my iPad > Margaret (Marg) H. Knox > The University of Texas System > >
Thanks Grant! Sent from my iPad Margaret (Marg) H. Knox The University of Texas System
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