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Greetings,

My College is looking for a new solution that will allow employees access to their home and shared network folders from off-campus locations.  We have been using Netstorage from Novell for years, but the product is old and cumbersome.  We are in the process of switching from Novell system (1 server to go) to a Linux and Windows environment.  Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Dan



Dan Wasson
Director Systems & LAN Management
Northwestern Michigan College
231-995-1164

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Cheap, works well: http://www.element-it.com/asp-net-explorer-browser/online-share/web-file-manager.aspx

Brad

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Brad Christ
Chief Information Officer
Southern Oregon University



Google. 

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Joseph Moreau
408-348-1197

Or Box (an Internet 2 Net+ service) if you don't have Google.

John Gohsman
University of Michigan

If you have Windows file servers HTTP Commander works well.  Besides access via web browser user can share documents with users anywhere in the world.  They can add passwords, limit downloads, expire when files can be downloaded.

Chip Eckardt
CIO
UW-Eau Claire
Eau Claire, WI

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Hi

We use our load balance solution (netscaler) and our vpn-ssl (Juniper) to do this
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Atentamente,
Andres Holguin Coral
Coordinador de Investigaciones Tecnológicas 
Dirección de Tecnologías de Información
Universidad de Los Andes
a-holgui@uniandes.edu.co
Tel: +5713324480
Bogotá, Colombia

From: Dan Wasson <dan@NMC.EDU>
Reply-To: "dwasson@nmc.edu" <dwasson@nmc.edu>
Date: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:29 PM
To: "CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [CIO] Off Camus access to file storage

Greetings,

My College is looking for a new solution that will allow employees access to their home and shared network folders from off-campus locations.  We have been using Netstorage from Novell for years, but the product is old and cumbersome.  We are in the process of switching from Novell system (1 server to go) to a Linux and Windows environment.  Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Dan



Dan Wasson
Director Systems & LAN Management
Northwestern Michigan College
231-995-1164

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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box.net has an enterprise service that supports SSO (Shibboleth and other SAML protocols) as well as Active Directory groups (from SAML).



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Wentworth Institute of Technology
Division of Technology Services

Williston Hall | 550 Huntington Avenue | Boston, Ma 02115
Office Phone: 617-989-4592 | Mobile: 617-543-4184
email: staplesm@wit.edu | Twitter: markstaples_cio
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Colleagues,
The Internet2 community has a program in place with Box today.    We are working with regional networks to expand the Internet2 offering for Box beyond current InCommon and I2 members so if your interested in learning more about Box and are a not for profit educational institution, take a look at http://www.internet2.edu/netplus/box/index.html for details.

Regards,
Shel

Shelton Waggener
Senior Vice President Internet2




Adrian,
Good question - We will be adding small tiers by the beginning of the year to handle small schools. It was in fact setup originally for the large institutions but at the request of the community it will be expanded through the regional networks to support smaller institutions.  

Shel


Shel Waggener
Senior Vice President Internet2





I would also be interested if a much lower tier could be setup.

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  John R. Davis  <davisj@marietta.edu>
  Chief Information Officer
  Marietta College
  215 Fifth St.
  Marietta, OH  45750
  Voice: 740-376-4390
  Fax:   740-376-4812
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From: "Shel Waggener" <swaggener@INTERNET2.EDU>
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:54:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CIO] Off Camus access to file storage

Adrian,
Good question - We will be adding small tiers by the beginning of the year to handle small schools. It was in fact setup originally for the large institutions but at the request of the community it will be expanded through the regional networks to support smaller institutions.  

Shel


Shel Waggener
Senior Vice President Internet2




All,
The current proposal is for a 5000 tier and potentially a 1500 tier.   We are working with the regional network partners and the provider (Box) to create those levels.

Regards
Shel


Shel Waggener
Senior Vice President Internet2




Drake University uses Xythos for this purpose. Both department shares and personal drive data can be accessed off campus using any web browser. It has worked extremely well and has been well received. Xythos also has another application that works in conjunction with their offering called ‘Xythos Drive’ that we use. Xythos Drive allows the Windows and Mac clients to portray this space as a local drive so it appears as if the data is local to their workstation.

 

The Xythos solution is a great example of a private cloud. We manage this data on-site and we feel better about that versus having sensitive data being hosted somewhere else.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Jeff

 

Jeffrey D. Sabin

DIRECTOR, COMMUNICATIONS AND NETWORK SERVICES

 

Drake University

The Dial Center

2507 University Avenue    Des Moines, Iowa 50311-4505

Tel  515.271.2935

Fax 515.271.1938

1.800.44.DRAKE x2935

E-mail jeff.sabin@drake.edu

 

From: Dan Wasson <dan@NMC.EDU>
Reply-To: "dwasson@nmc.edu" <dwasson@nmc.edu>
Date: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:29 PM
To: "CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [CIO] Off Camus access to file storage

 

Greetings,

 

My College is looking for a new solution that will allow employees access to their home and shared network folders from off-campus locations.  We have been using Netstorage from Novell for years, but the product is old and cumbersome.  We are in the process of switching from Novell system (1 server to go) to a Linux and Windows environment.  Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Dan

 

 

 

Dan Wasson

Director Systems & LAN Management

Northwestern Michigan College

231-995-1164


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We use SharePoint for this purpose, for controlled and information protected documents, and files. Not exactly a “synch”, like DropBox, etc., but, on windows machines, can be mapped to a “shortcut” off campus, and, for Macs, etc., can be accessed via a browser (the URL of which, can also be a “shortcut”, homepage tab, etc.).

 

If you already have a robust SharePoint infrastructure (read: oodles of server / file space) this is a very quick, easy to deploy option, that plays nice, i.e., natively, with Active Directory.

 

One advantage, or disadvantage, depending on one’s vantage, is that department leads can manage the technical permissions of who has access to what. Again, can be good or bad depending on where one sits on the usability vs. control spectrum.

 

Sincerely,

 

Scott Helf, DO, MSIT

Chief Technology Officer

Assistant Dean, Academic Informatics

College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific

 

Western University of Health Sciences

309 East 2nd Street

Pomona, CA  91766

 

909-781-4353

shelf@westernu.edu

 

www.westernu.edu

 

-sch

 

Ø  Xythos also has another application that works in conjunction with their offering called ‘Xythos Drive’ that we use. Xythos Drive allows the Windows and Mac clients to portray this space as a local drive so it appears as if the data is local to their workstation.

 

This has been a great thread.

 

It’s been my observation and opinion through the years that any solution that doesn’t portray the space as a local drive is so cumbersome to use as not really to be a solution. Well, a solution does not necessarily have to portray the space as a local drive, but I think it needs to expose the space to the File dialog of any program – File->Open, File->Save, File->Save As… etc. Many solutions require the user to File->Save As… to a real local drive and then to move the file to the network storage as a separate operation (and vice versa for File->Open).

 

Another piece of this puzzle that’s becoming important is to make network file space available to mobile devices. For example, I can presently view any of my personal Dropbox files on my iPhone and iPad. Dropbox is much more of a consumer product that an enterprise product, and I can only view files on my iPhone and my iPad rather than being able to edit them. But nevertheless, the Dropbox mobile app is a step in the right direction.

 

Finally, we are beginning to use Citrix in part to provide off campus access to our on campus file storage. Which is to say, the virtual Citrix environment to which a user logs in connects them to their campus network file storage. Citrix obviously does many other things, and the ability to provide off campus access to our on campus file storage is really just icing on the cake. But it’s really nice icing.

 

Jerry

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Jerry Bryan • Vice President of Information Services • Pellissippi State • 10915 Hardin Valley Road • P.O. Box 22990 • Knoxville, TN 37933-0990

Voice: 865 539-7127 •  Fax: 865 539-7653 •  E-mail: jbryan@pstcc.edu

 

 

 

 

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It’s been my observation and opinion through the years that any solution that doesn’t portray the space as a local drive is so cumbersome to use as not really to be a solution. Well, a solution does not necessarily have to portray the space as a local drive, but I think it needs to expose the space to the File dialog of any program – File->Open, File->Save, File->Save As… etc. Many solutions require the user to File->Save As… to a real local drive and then to move the file to the network storage as a separate operation (and vice versa for File->Open).


Agreed.  That's why a product like HTTP Commander is a good fit.  It's just a web interface to normal home directories.

 


Another piece of this puzzle that’s becoming important is to make network file space available to mobile devices. For example, I can presently view any of my personal Dropbox files on my iPhone and iPad. Dropbox is much more of a consumer product that an enterprise product, and I can only view files on my iPhone and my iPad rather than being able to edit them. But nevertheless, the Dropbox mobile app is a step in the right direction.


Fortunately, HTTP Commander has a decent mobile web interface.

We're also a Google campus, but Google Drive adoption has been fairly low (especially compared to DropBox).
 

 

Finally, we are beginning to use Citrix in part to provide off campus access to our on campus file storage. Which is to say, the virtual Citrix environment to which a user logs in connects them to their campus network file storage. Citrix obviously does many other things, and the ability to provide off campus access to our on campus file storage is really just icing on the cake. But it’s really nice icing.


 We use RDS for the same reasons.  Another nice aspect of using a remote desktop is keeping sensitive data off mobile devices, since there's no need to be messing with local files.
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I'll join in as a USER of many of these services, and I agree with others, that making it easy and familiar is essential for broad adoption.

IU joined as a Box.com early adopter via Internet2's Net+ services.  I have several folders automatically synched to multiple devices.  Some of these are shared folders with various teams and some are personal file storage.  Changes flow automatically.  

I don't synch all the folders for various projects as they are always avail as needed via a browser.  The other breakthrough in my use is using my IU credentials to login (InCommon) and collaborating beyond my institution with .edu or .com addresses.  It has simply been the best experience that I've ever had in collaborating with lots of colleagues on versions and collections of work.  Counsel has approved it for use of IU administrative work, and many consumer apps are not yet evaluated for our compliance needs.  Box gave us a place to quickly steer that demand to an approved system.

Agreed, there are many options for this, so I'll simply add that our Internet2 Box experience has been a great experience. 

--Brad

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IU Vice President for IT & CIO, Dean, and Professor

Indiana University, http://ovpit.iu.edu 



From: Brad Christ <christb@SOU.EDU>
Reply-To: "CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:32 PM
To: "CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CIO] Off Camus access to file storage


It’s been my observation and opinion through the years that any solution that doesn’t portray the space as a local drive is so cumbersome to use as not really to be a solution. Well, a solution does not necessarily have to portray the space as a local drive, but I think it needs to expose the space to the File dialog of any program – File->Open, File->Save, File->Save As… etc. Many solutions require the user to File->Save As… to a real local drive and then to move the file to the network storage as a separate operation (and vice versa for File->Open).


Agreed.  That's why a product like HTTP Commander is a good fit.  It's just a web interface to normal home directories.

 


Another piece of this puzzle that’s becoming important is to make network file space available to mobile devices. For example, I can presently view any of my personal Dropbox files on my iPhone and iPad. Dropbox is much more of a consumer product that an enterprise product, and I can only view files on my iPhone and my iPad rather than being able to edit them. But nevertheless, the Dropbox mobile app is a step in the right direction.


Fortunately, HTTP Commander has a decent mobile web interface.

We're also a Google campus, but Google Drive adoption has been fairly low (especially compared to DropBox).
 

 

Finally, we are beginning to use Citrix in part to provide off campus access to our on campus file storage. Which is to say, the virtual Citrix environment to which a user logs in connects them to their campus network file storage. Citrix obviously does many other things, and the ability to provide off campus access to our on campus file storage is really just icing on the cake. But it’s really nice icing.


 We use RDS for the same reasons.  Another nice aspect of using a remote desktop is keeping sensitive data off mobile devices, since there's no need to be messing with local files.
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We are a virtual campus and provide virtual desktop pool access to our faculty and staff via vdesk.  This in addition to the requiring they use two factor authentication   via RAS FOB’s.

 

Joe

Norwich University

 

 

We are looking at a product called Aurora from Condrey corporation to do this.  - http://www.condreycorp.com/aurora

Darrell Lutey
Assistant Director, 702-895-0763
Office of Information Technology, UNLV
CBC B129 / Mail Stop 7040
http://oit.unlv.edu  |  Twitter@unlv_oit
IT Help Desk: 702-895-0777




We are looking at a product called HTTPCommander.  We’ve been favorably impressed in our testing of the product.  The development team at Element IT has been very responsive to questions we’ve had during the process.

 

Steve Fowler

Systems Manager

Technology Support Services

Oregon State University

 

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