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iPad based Point-Of-Sale
Hi all,
We're looking at portable POS for our athletics folks and talking to a company called Revel Systems. Does anyone have experience with them? Someone else doing iPad credit-card-swipe that you like doing business with? (and is fully PCI compliant!) Just looking for references!
Thanks,
- Mark
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Mark Berman, Chief Information Officer
Siena College
515 Loudon Road
Loudonville, NY 12211
(518)782-6957, Fax: (518)783-2590
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Jim
James M. Dutcher - Chair - SUNY Council of CIOs
SUNY Cobleskill - CIO: PMP, CISSP, SCP/Security+, CISA
Dennis Michaels <dmichaels@NIAGARACC.SUNY.EDU> wrote:
By no means am I an expert, just passing some information to think about.
Dennis Michaels
Chief Information Officer
Niagara County Community College
716.614.6744
We just completed a PCI-DSS gap analysis and were told that not only were these devices not PCI compliant, they were not secure.
Regards,
Timothy D. Carroll
Timothy D. Carroll
Assistant Vice President, Information Technology
Roane State Community College
From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dutcher, James M
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:19 PM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] iPad based Point-Of-Sale
Good points Dennis....here are some reference links from both sides:
http://creditcardprocessingadvice.com/squareup-and-pci-compliance/
https://squareup.com/security/levels
Regards,
Jim
James M. Dutcher - Chair - SUNY Council of CIOs
SUNY Cobleskill - CIO: PMP, CISSP, SCP/Security+, CISA
Dennis Michaels <dmichaels@NIAGARACC.SUNY.EDU> wrote:
I recently attended a conference where a PCI vendor was doing a presentation. He stated that currently there are no PCI compliment mobile POS. He stated that if you use something like Square the swipe process is compliment but where the breakdown is if the credit card cannot be swiped. The systems will allow you to manually type the credit card on the device, which then bypasses the encryption.
By no means am I an expert, just passing some information to think about.
Dennis Michaels
Chief Information Officer
Niagara County Community College
716.614.6744
Thanks to everyone for the comments. FYI: One thing that Revel provides that Square, I think, does not is some inventory control along with historical reporting. They also provide hardware that ties into a cash drawer so they can take and track cash as well as credit. It sounds like not too many of you all are doing much in this area, are we out there on the bleeding edge on this? I have to say that the main place I’ve seen these things in use is at crafts fairs where the vendors don’t take advantage of the fancier capabilities.
- Mark
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Mark Berman, Chief Information Officer
Siena College
515 Loudon Road
Loudonville, NY 12211
(518)782-6957, Fax: (518)783-2590
Siena College is a learning community advancing the ideals of a liberal arts education, rooted in its identity as a Franciscan and Catholic institution.
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
From: Dutcher, James M [mailto:DutcheJM@COBLESKILL.EDU]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: iPad based Point-Of-Sale
Good points Dennis....here are some reference links from both sides:
http://creditcardprocessingadvice.com/squareup-and-pci-compliance/
https://squareup.com/security/levels
Regards,
Jim
James M. Dutcher - Chair - SUNY Council of CIOs
SUNY Cobleskill - CIO: PMP, CISSP, SCP/Security+, CISA
Dennis Michaels <dmichaels@NIAGARACC.SUNY.EDU> wrote:
I recently attended a conference where a PCI vendor was doing a presentation. He stated that currently there are no PCI compliment mobile POS. He stated that if you use something like Square the swipe process is compliment but where the breakdown is if the credit card cannot be swiped. The systems will allow you to manually type the credit card on the device, which then bypasses the encryption.
By no means am I an expert, just passing some information to think about.
Dennis Michaels
Chief Information Officer
Niagara County Community College
716.614.6744
Mark,
According to our consultant, there are wireless POS terminals that are PCI compliant. However, you will need to take precautions because they place your wireless network “in scope”. The devices, according to the PCI Council document, “Accepting Mobile Payments with a Smartphone or Tablet”, May 2012, states that “Validated P2PE solutions ensure that cardholder data is encrypted before it enters a mobile device.” Devices, like Square, do not meet this standard.
If you use a validated device for P2PE from your acquirer and take the required precautions for your network, you may be okay. However, I would recommend you check with your acquirer or payment card vendor. You may be required to fill out a P2PE self-assessment questionnaire as part of your annual PCI-DSS evaluation.
Regards,
Tim
Tim Carroll
Assistant Vice President, Information Technology
Roane State Community College
-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Berman, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:47 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] iPad based Point-Of-Sale
Tim,
Do you know on what basis they said the security was lacking? Revel is offering their PCI compliance certification.
- Mark
From: "Carroll, Tim" <Carrolltd@ROANESTATE.EDU<mailto:Carrolltd@ROANESTATE.EDU>>
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: iPad based Point-Of-Sale
We just completed a PCI-DSS gap analysis and were told that not only were these devices not PCI compliant, they were not secure.
Regards,
Timothy D. Carroll
Timothy D. Carroll
Assistant Vice President, Information Technology Roane State Community College
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From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dutcher, James M
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:19 PM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CIO] iPad based Point-Of-Sale
Good points Dennis....here are some reference links from both sides:
http://creditcardprocessingadvice.com/squareup-and-pci-compliance/
https://squareup.com/security/levels
Regards,
Jim
James M. Dutcher - Chair - SUNY Council of CIOs
SUNY Cobleskill - CIO: PMP, CISSP, SCP/Security+, CISA
Dennis Michaels <dmichaels@NIAGARACC.SUNY.EDU<mailto:dmichaels@NIAGARACC.SUNY.EDU>> wrote:
I recently attended a conference where a PCI vendor was doing a presentation. He stated that currently there are no PCI compliment mobile POS. He stated that if you use something like Square the swipe process is compliment but where the breakdown is if the credit card cannot be swiped. The systems will allow you to manually type the credit card on the device, which then bypasses the encryption.
By no means am I an expert, just passing some information to think about.
Dennis Michaels
Chief Information Officer
Niagara County Community College
716.614.6744
At our college, we worked with our Bank to get handheld dedicated CC scanners which operate on cellular networks only, no WiFi. As I understand it, those devices can talk to multiple cellular networks to find the best signal, and all data is encrypted from start to finish. Meaning they are completely outside of your PCI scope, even if a user needs to hand type a CC number into the device if the card won't scan. Of course, there is a nominal monthly data fee for the service, but I believe it more than pays for itself in reduced staff time dealing with PCI requirements.
It's been a charm for us in our annual PCI assessments.
Perhaps I am missing something on the importance of it being iPad based?
On 10/9/2012 8:21 AM, Carroll, Tim wrote: