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We are in transition like many other Banner schools in anticipation of Banner 9 and the Java platform.  We are either hiring or training current staff in application development using JAVA and JAVA frameworks such as Groovy or Rails, from PL/SQL.  We are also dabbling in mobile application development with a few apps completed and many ideas on the table.  My question is how are other schools staffing to meet the new requirements?  The JAVA/Groovy staffing is straightforward.  It’s the next evolution of the Enterprise Applications team as they move away from PL/SQL.  For mobile application development on the Apple and Android platforms, is your staffing anchored in the same Enterprise Applications team, or possibly with Web Services/Development, or even both depending upon the use of the app?  Have you added new positions to address the inevitable high volume of mobile app requests?  Or are you having to live with current staffing, which means training and having staff split between ERP/Banner support and mobile app development?

 

What it comes down to here is the standard not enough resources to complete the amount of work being thrown at us.  Thanks for your feedback.

 

Les Vaughan
Associate Vice President Information Technology
Wentworth Institute of Technology
550 Huntington Ave
Boston, MA 02115

617-989-4510 desk
617-279-5106 mobile

 

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At Drake we are living with current staffing.  We just released our mobile app built on the Sungardhe mobile platform  - RhoMobile, Grails, Ruby.  I sent my Banner PL/SQL developers who had little Java experience to the Sungardhe Mobile training class and we had the app ready for production in less than 4 months from the training while still supporting and enhancing Banner 8, doing not much less of the latter by the way.  We expect to release new functions within the app every couple of months going forward.  We support Android and iOS, no others.  Having the right people helped, my team loves developing the mobile apps  – it’s a real motivator for them.  I didn’t get additional staff for mobile and I don’t expect to get additional staff when we go to Banner 9.  I also don’t see PL/SQL development decreasing much when we go to Banner 9, but maybe am missing something.  I am concerned about the additional requirements of figuring out web services integration as well as hibernate and spring.  I think it will be 1.5-2 years before we actually upgrade to 9 so I have some time to plan and build our case if more resources are required.  Looking forward to hearing what others say, thanks for you post!

 

 

Angela Embree

Director of Computer Information Systems

Drake University

515-271-1843

 

 

 

We see this as a skill addition to our team.  We have a team of 8 developers, including the director.  We won't be getting any new positions.  They support Banner (in all its flavors), data integration with other systems that integrate with Banner, our implementation of uPortal, and now we've taken on the first app (um, a faculty/student project that didn't go well) .  I think the staff will appreciate the skill and project diversity.
 
For apps, we are limiting to three platforms:  Apple iPhone, Apple iPad and Android.

We are gradually retooling skills to Java platforms.  We have realized that we cannot let go of PL/SQL - too much legacy support is needed.  The Banner Mobile training was well received.

One of the issues we've hit is integration with third party APIs.  It is a challenge for staff to get a spec, for example, to integrate a Google map API or Twitter API, then to find the Terms of Service or Terms and Conditions, and the relevant trademark guides, and translate all this into actionable technology.

Theresa

Les,
 
I've heard rumors that SunGard is moving Banner in the Java/Groovy direction, but haven't heard anything from SunGard HE directly about the requirements of Banner 9.  We'll check on it from our side.  We wish they would just pick a platform and stick with it.  We are a Flexible Registration institution as well and therefore are supporting Abobe Flex for that product.
 
We have been investigating SunGard's solution to mobile as well as other solutions.  We saw a demo of the CampuEAI mobile solution for Banner and it looks pretty good.  We have a total programming staff of 9 including the director and a web services staff of 3 (trying to hire the 4th).  I am leaning towards the CampusEAI solution if the development of other apps we need is reasonable.  Since my programming staff also serve as application administrators for many of the administrative applications, it would hopefully be one less product for which they would have to provide total support. 
 
We are not going to be able to add positions to handle mobile. 
 
Dave
 
David Hoyt
Chief Information Systems Officer
 
Collin College     
Collin Higher Education Center
3452 Spur 399
McKinney, TX  75069
P - 972.599.3133   F - 972.599.3131


>>> On 9/21/2011 at 2:41 PM, in message <C2F2C2344554E248B391B66CEA10C834037BBC66@EXMBX2.wit.private>, "Vaughan, Les" <vaughanl@WIT.EDU> wrote:

We are in transition like many other Banner schools in anticipation of Banner 9 and the Java platform.  We are either hiring or training current staff in application development using JAVA and JAVA frameworks such as Groovy or Rails, from PL/SQL.  We are also dabbling in mobile application development with a few apps completed and many ideas on the table.  My question is how are other schools staffing to meet the new requirements?  The JAVA/Groovy staffing is straightforward.  It's the next evolution of the Enterprise Applications team as they move away from PL/SQL.  For mobile application development on the Apple and Android platforms, is your staffing anchored in the same Enterprise Applications team, or possibly with Web Services/Development, or even both depending upon the use of the app?  Have you added new positions to address the inevitable high volume of mobile app requests?  Or are you having to live with current staffing, which means training and having staff split between ERP/Banner support and mobile app development?

 

What it comes down to here is the standard not enough resources to complete the amount of work being thrown at us.  Thanks for your feedback.

 

Les Vaughan
Associate Vice President Information Technology
Wentworth Institute of Technology
550 Huntington Ave
Boston, MA 02115

617-989-4510 desk
617-279-5106 mobile

 

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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