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Friends,

One of my colleagues challenged me with a question yesterday, and I am sure the question is answered in one of our standard surveys.

 

What is the percentage of Macintoshes to PCs on most university campuses?

 

I really don't need individual responses.  Could someone point me to where the question has already been answered.

 

Thanks.

 

DP Harris, Phd—Vice President/CIO

LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY | Information Services

11139 Anderson Street, Loma Linda, California 92350

(909) 558-7600

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I know you did not ask, but at UW-Eau Claire Macs have varied between 11% to 17% of total personal computer inventory.  This included laptops and desktops over the last 15 years.  As of this morning we have 3,521 PCs and 497 Macs.  We also have 331 iPads.

Chip Eckardt
CIO
UW-Eau Claire
105 Garfield Ave.
Eau Claire, WI 54701

30% of student owned computers are Mac (drawn from the Spring 2012 edition of our twice annual LIFESTYLE & MEDIA study of the Four Year FT undergrad population).

 

Among the 11% of FT undergrads planning to buy a new computer in the next 12 months, 48% plan to buy a Mac including;

 

·         22% of desktop purchase intenders

·         49% of laptop purchase intenders

·         76% of tablet purchase intenders

 

One in eight students (12%) own an iPad

 

We’ll be interviewing students on campus early in October in conjunction with the Fall 2012 edition.

 

Eric Weil

Managing Partner

STUDENT MONITOR LLC

"Converting Data To Insight"

550 North Maple Ave., Ridgewood, NJ 07450

(201) 612-8100

 



Do you want to post a response directly or would you like me to do so for you with a link to your web site?

Casey

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Below are data from the 2011 Campus Computing Survey regarding the operating systems installed on institutionally-owned computers and servers.  These numbers, based on the estimates provided by the some 500 CIOs and other senior campus IT officers who participated in the fall 2011 Campus Computing Survey, provides an indirect answer to the question about "Macs vs. PCs" platforms on campus (I.e., institutionally-owned computers).


I hope these data prove to be useful and informative.  My thanks to all who participated in the 2011 survey.

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From: "Harris, DP (LLU)" <dpharris@LLU.EDU>
Reply-To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:52 AM
To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

Friends,

One of my colleagues challenged me with a question yesterday, and I am sure the question is answered in one of our standard surveys.

 

What is the percentage of Macintoshes to PCs on most university campuses?

 

I really don't need individual responses.  Could someone point me to where the question has already been answered.

 

Thanks.

 

DP Harris, Phd—Vice President/CIO

LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY | Information Services

11139 Anderson Street, Loma Linda, California 92350

(909) 558-7600

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Is there historical data available that could show trends over time?  Such data could support requests for additional Mac skill sets on the team.

Best regards,

Patricia Ainsworth, CISSP
CIO CISO
Salem State University

978-542-6446 (office)

Sent from my iPad

Here’s the trends  for our campus over the last 3 years (both indicates either two computers or dual-boot macs):

 

What is your primary workstation O/S?

2008

2009

2010

2011

Trending

All users

Microsoft Windows

N/A

76%

65%

71%

 

Apple Mac O/S

N/A

17%

25%

21%

 

Both

N/A

7%

9%

8%

 

Other

N/A

N/A

1%

1%

 

 

 

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Steve Swartz

Assistant VP & Chief Information Officer

Fitchburg State University

978-665-4444

www.fitchburgstate.edu

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Patricia Ainsworth
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:57 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Is there historical data available that could show trends over time?  Such data could support requests for additional Mac skill sets on the team.

Best regards,

 

Patricia Ainsworth, CISSP

CIO CISO

Salem State University



978-542-6446 (office)



Sent from my iPad




Patricia,

Bellow are the data for 2009 vs 2011.  The Mac numbers as a pct. of institutionally-owned platforms are growing, but not as fast as the numbers in the Student Monitor data,  which reflect student purchases or intent to purchase.  

The lag between student and institutional numbers is understandable in the context of institutional replacement cycles: lab platforms are often on a three-four year replacement cycle and office systems for faculty and administrators are on a four-five year replacement cycle.   (Please see replacement cycle data below).




Casey Green
Campus Computing

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Kenneth C. Green   818.990.2212
 The Campus Computing Project®
 www.campuscomputing.net
 cgreen@campuscomputing.net
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From: Patricia Ainsworth <painsworth@salemstate.edu>
Reply-To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:56 AM
To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

Is there historical data available that could show trends over time?  Such data could support requests for additional Mac skill sets on the team.

Best regards,

Patricia Ainsworth, CISSP
CIO CISO
Salem State University

978-542-6446 (office)

Sent from my iPad

Casey,

Do you have a breakdown for replacement cycle of Macs vs. PCs?  One of the arguments Apple makes when I tell them we pay almost $500 more per Mac than we do for a Windows computer is that we get a better return on investment including resale price, productivity, and help desk support.  I don't have any data on productivity and help desk support isn't definitive for us (we're 60% Mac) but we are trying extending the replacement cycle out on desktops to 5 years (with some exceptions for power users).  If we can get an extra year out of a Mac than we get for Windows with no dire consequences, it could help support Apple's position.

Keith Nelson
Chief Technology Officer
Alma College

Email:  nelsonkr@alma.edu
Office:  989/463-7303
Fax:  989/463-7101

From: "Casey Green / Campus Computing" <cgreen@CAMPUSCOMPUTING.NET>
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC



Patricia,

Bellow are the data for 2009 vs 2011.  The Mac numbers as a pct. of institutionally-owned platforms are growing, but not as fast as the numbers in the Student Monitor data,  which reflect student purchases or intent to purchase.  

The lag between student and institutional numbers is understandable in the context of institutional replacement cycles: lab platforms are often on a three-four year replacement cycle and office systems for faculty and administrators are on a four-five year replacement cycle.   (Please see replacement cycle data below).




Casey Green
Campus Computing

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Kenneth C. Green   818.990.2212
 The Campus Computing Project®
 www.campuscomputing.net
 cgreen@campuscomputing.net
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=









From: Patricia Ainsworth <painsworth@salemstate.edu>
Reply-To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:56 AM
To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

Is there historical data available that could show trends over time?  Such data could support requests for additional Mac skill sets on the team.

Best regards,

Patricia Ainsworth, CISSP
CIO CISO
Salem State University

978-542-6446 (office)

Sent from my iPad

All,

 

This information was exactly what I needed.   An authority was positing that our university was Windows-biased, he believed that higher education was tilted heavily toward Macintoshes.  Indeed while Apple has about 5% of the world-wide market, they have 20% of the Higher Ed market so that would support his belief.

 

Nonetheless, I remain technology agnostic.  Our university, like most, actively supports both platforms.  My team, like most, don’t have a stated preference for one vs. the other. 

 

Thanks for the timely responses.

 

DP Harris, Phd—Vice President/CIO

LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY | Information Services

11139 Anderson Street, Loma Linda, California 92350

(909) 558-7600

Meeting Room: http://llu.adobeconnect.com/dpharris-voffice/

 


Keith,

Alas, we do not have data on the replacement cycles by platform.  

Casey

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 www.campuscomputing.net
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From: "Keith R. Nelson" <nelsonkr@ALMA.EDU>
Reply-To: Keith Nelson <nelson@alma.edu>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:24 AM
To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

Casey,

Do you have a breakdown for replacement cycle of Macs vs. PCs?  One of the arguments Apple makes when I tell them we pay almost $500 more per Mac than we do for a Windows computer is that we get a better return on investment including resale price, productivity, and help desk support.  I don't have any data on productivity and help desk support isn't definitive for us (we're 60% Mac) but we are trying extending the replacement cycle out on desktops to 5 years (with some exceptions for power users).  If we can get an extra year out of a Mac than we get for Windows with no dire consequences, it could help support Apple's position.

Keith Nelson
Chief Technology Officer
Alma College

Email:  nelsonkr@alma.edu
Office:  989/463-7303
Fax:  989/463-7101

From: "Casey Green / Campus Computing" <cgreen@CAMPUSCOMPUTING.NET>
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:15:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC



Patricia,

Bellow are the data for 2009 vs 2011.  The Mac numbers as a pct. of institutionally-owned platforms are growing, but not as fast as the numbers in the Student Monitor data,  which reflect student purchases or intent to purchase.  

The lag between student and institutional numbers is understandable in the context of institutional replacement cycles: lab platforms are often on a three-four year replacement cycle and office systems for faculty and administrators are on a four-five year replacement cycle.   (Please see replacement cycle data below).




Casey Green
Campus Computing

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Kenneth C. Green   818.990.2212
 The Campus Computing Project®
 www.campuscomputing.net
 cgreen@campuscomputing.net
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=









From: Patricia Ainsworth <painsworth@salemstate.edu>
Reply-To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:56 AM
To: EDUCAUSE Listserv <CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

Is there historical data available that could show trends over time?  Such data could support requests for additional Mac skill sets on the team.

Best regards,

Patricia Ainsworth, CISSP
CIO CISO
Salem State University

978-542-6446 (office)

Sent from my iPad

FWIW, we are 100% Mac. We are not large (2000 students) but all students have Mac laptops, and all staff and faculty desktops are Macs (some few booting into Windows as needed). 

Joseph Ugoretz, PhD
Associate Dean and CIO
Teaching, Learning and Technology
Macaulay Honors College
City University of New York

 

The ECAR Undergraduate Student Technology Study works with institutions to collect data directly from students about the operating system platforms they use. The quick answer about OS market share is, in 2012 76% of students with laptops and 89% of students with desktops use the Windows platform on their own machines. The Mac OS is preferred by younger students (for laptops), and there are distinct differences when the data are sliced by Carnegie Class.

 

Below is a breakout of the 2012 Student Study information by Carnegie class, demographics, or U.S. vs. other countries. The freely available public report on this year’s findings will be available later this fall, but feel free to contact me if you would like additional information about the preliminary findings.

 

 

 

This information doesn’t address the issue of what kinds of computers/OSs are available to students at institutions, but we learned in the 2011 undergraduate Student Study that 65% of students preferred Windows platforms on PCs.


-Eden

 

Eden Dahlstrom, Ed.D.

Senior Research Analyst

EDUCAUSE Center for Applied Research

Uncommon Thinking for the Common Good

1150 18th Street, NW, Suite 900

Washington, DC 20036

530.903.2305 (cell)

303.939.0330 (office)

edahlstrom@educause.edu

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Ugoretz
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:12 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

FWIW, we are 100% Mac. We are not large (2000 students) but all students have Mac laptops, and all staff and faculty desktops are Macs (some few booting into Windows as needed). 

 

Joseph Ugoretz, PhD

Associate Dean and CIO

Teaching, Learning and Technology

Macaulay Honors College

City University of New York


Our kids must be drinking different Kool-aid.... we're approaching 70% Mac.  Five years ago, it was 70% Windows.  I switched myself just over two years ago.  

We support both platforms but encourage Macs when asked.  

Lee

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Message from jenos@fandm.edu

Our faculty technology committee, which revisits the issue every year, has "strongly recommended" the Macintosh to incoming first year students since the mid 1980s.  As a result 80% of our students have a Mac.  While we have some departments that are PC based, overall our staff is about 90% Mac.  We support both platforms and our labs are set up as dual-boot Macs.

Jon

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Jonathan Enos, Ed.D.
Associate Vice President for Information Technology and Chief Information Officer
Franklin & Marshall College
PO Box 3003 Lancaster, PA 17604-3003
Board Chair, Consortium of Liberal Arts Colleges http://www.liberalarts.org
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Williams College has also gone from 30% Macs for first-years and sophomores in 2006 to 80% Macs in 2012.  We do a survey of a sampling of students most years and the results can be found at http://oit.williams.edu/technology-use-survey/tech-use-evolution-2/ if you are interested.  The first section is on phones, the second section is on computers and the third is on Internet use.  

 

Going to http://oit.williams.edu/technology-use-survey/ will get you to year by year results. 

 

This information has been very useful to us in decision making.

 

Dinny

 

Dinny S. Taylor
Chief Technology Officer
Williams College

See OIT's new Center for Media Initiatives in the future Sawyer http://oit.williams.edu/cmi/

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Enos
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:01 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Our faculty technology committee, which revisits the issue every year, has "strongly recommended" the Macintosh to incoming first year students since the mid 1980s.  As a result 80% of our students have a Mac.  While we have some departments that are PC based, overall our staff is about 90% Mac.  We support both platforms and our labs are set up as dual-boot Macs.

 

Jon


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Jonathan Enos, Ed.D.

Associate Vice President for Information Technology and Chief Information Officer

Franklin & Marshall College

PO Box 3003 Lancaster, PA 17604-3003

Board Chair, Consortium of Liberal Arts Colleges http://www.liberalarts.org

ITS Staff will NEVER ask you for your password by e-mail.  Never e-mail your NetID or password to ANYONE.



Could it be that one reason is the popularity of iPads and iPhones…MACs play nicely with these and share resources well.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dinny S. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:55 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Williams College has also gone from 30% Macs for first-years and sophomores in 2006 to 80% Macs in 2012.  We do a survey of a sampling of students most years and the results can be found at http://oit.williams.edu/technology-use-survey/tech-use-evolution-2/ if you are interested.  The first section is on phones, the second section is on computers and the third is on Internet use.  

 

Going to http://oit.williams.edu/technology-use-survey/ will get you to year by year results. 

 

This information has been very useful to us in decision making.

 

Dinny

 

Dinny S. Taylor
Chief Technology Officer
Williams College

See OIT's new Center for Media Initiatives in the future Sawyer http://oit.williams.edu/cmi/

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Enos
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:01 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Our faculty technology committee, which revisits the issue every year, has "strongly recommended" the Macintosh to incoming first year students since the mid 1980s.  As a result 80% of our students have a Mac.  While we have some departments that are PC based, overall our staff is about 90% Mac.  We support both platforms and our labs are set up as dual-boot Macs.

 

Jon


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Jonathan Enos, Ed.D.

Associate Vice President for Information Technology and Chief Information Officer

Franklin & Marshall College

PO Box 3003 Lancaster, PA 17604-3003

Board Chair, Consortium of Liberal Arts Colleges http://www.liberalarts.org

ITS Staff will NEVER ask you for your password by e-mail.  Never e-mail your NetID or password to ANYONE.

 

Message from shelf@westernu.edu

Perhaps. I’d also consider throwing Boot Camp into mix of hypothesis determining cause : effect. Arguably the genius of Steve Jobs…

 

I can cite an N of 1 – that’s why I have a MacBook Pro (the “old” one from 2008—yes, I have Retina envy!) and Windows 7 never looked better on any of my work or personal (read: video gaming) machines.

 

Less tongue in cheek, and for what it is worth, well over half of the web traffic to our Academic Progress Portal is Safari, even though WesternU does not officially support Mac, or OS X. The majority of this traffic is from students of doctor of osteopathic medicine, pharmacy, podiatry, dentistry, and masters of biological sciences, who, apparently, have made a choice counter to official policy.

 

Sincerely,

 

Scott Helf, DO, MSIT

Chief Technology Officer-COMP

Assistant Dean, Academic Informatics

 

College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific

Western University of Health Sciences

309 East 2nd Street

Pomona, CA  91766

 

909-781-4353

shelf@westernu.edu

 

www.westernu.edu

 

-sch

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Wheeler
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:27 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Could it be that one reason is the popularity of iPads and iPhones…MACs play nicely with these and share resources well.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dinny S. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:55 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Williams College has also gone from 30% Macs for first-years and sophomores in 2006 to 80% Macs in 2012.  We do a survey of a sampling of students most years and the results can be found at http://oit.williams.edu/technology-use-survey/tech-use-evolution-2/ if you are interested.  The first section is on phones, the second section is on computers and the third is on Internet use.  

 

Going to http://oit.williams.edu/technology-use-survey/ will get you to year by year results. 

 

This information has been very useful to us in decision making.

 

Dinny

 

Dinny S. Taylor
Chief Technology Officer
Williams College

See OIT's new Center for Media Initiatives in the future Sawyer http://oit.williams.edu/cmi/

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Enos
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:01 AM
To: CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [CIO] Mac vs. PC

 

Our faculty technology committee, which revisits the issue every year, has "strongly recommended" the Macintosh to incoming first year students since the mid 1980s.  As a result 80% of our students have a Mac.  While we have some departments that are PC based, overall our staff is about 90% Mac.  We support both platforms and our labs are set up as dual-boot Macs.

 

Jon


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Jonathan Enos, Ed.D.

Associate Vice President for Information Technology and Chief Information Officer

Franklin & Marshall College

PO Box 3003 Lancaster, PA 17604-3003

Board Chair, Consortium of Liberal Arts Colleges http://www.liberalarts.org

ITS Staff will NEVER ask you for your password by e-mail.  Never e-mail your NetID or password to ANYONE.

 

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