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Office PCs and Admin Rights
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Pardon me if this has already been asked…
I’m curious if other colleges and universities grant admin access to desktop or laptops owned and managed by the college and used by faculty or staff. We currently install whatever they need for them and maintain an inventory of all software installed. We track licensing etc. We are hesitant to give people admin access to their machines, but more and more they want to be able to do installations to demo products, get updates that we may not have installed yet, etc.
Just wondering if we’re being overly restrictive.
Thanks for your feedback, Dennis

















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At ISU we grant such access campus wide.. Our external auditors have questioned it...but we calculated the cost to support folks if we had to respond everytime they needed something installed, changed, automatic updates done, etc,..it was a staggering number... but we also decided the risk of not getting anti-virus updates, windows patches, etc. outweighed the security of locking everyone down. There may be solutions to some of these problems, in a locked down environment, and we may have to revisit but for now folks can do what they want.
Randy
Dennis,
We have the same policy at Dean College.
Please let me know if you have any questions or would like to discuss further.
Regards
Darrell K
J.Darrell Kulesza
Vice President and Chief Information Officer
Dean College
99 Main Street
Franklin MA 02038
Office: 508541 1864
Mobile: 781 856 6937
www.dean.edu
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Rick Matthews
We grant admin rights to all users. However, on every machine we also set up a second admin account that is only accessible by IT staff. This allows us to work on a machine in an employee's absence or recover a lost password.
"Matthews, Rick" <matthews@WFU.EDU> wrote:
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Rick Matthews
At Keystone College, users do not have admin rights on workstations. We have had occasion where technicians have given admin rights to “buddies” without authorization, and we subsequently found unlicensed software, junk software/malware, and/or problems that the users would not have run into had the machines’ configuration been protected. The flip side of this policy is that we must respond quickly to any reasonable request for a software installation. With Remote Assist and Runas, we can often take a phone call and do the install right then and there. Or we grant admin rights to the user temporarily so they can do what they need to do. Even in IT, we do not run our machines with admin rights all the time. Each of us has a “normal user” account under which our Exchange mailboxes and other privileges are configured, and an “admin” user account that we only use for system maintenance tasks.
Because we have historically been more focused on teaching than research, this approach has worked in most cases. We do, however, have a few faculty for whom our policy has created difficulties. We have provided some “extra” workstations for research purposes, with relaxed security so the researcher can tinker – but they still retain an office PC for email and general office work. VMware Player also presents an interesting method for offering a less controlled environment/sandbox without compromising anything else.
Cheers!
Charlie
We have taken a middle ground approach. We have removed Admin Rights from users in “critical and public” areas (finance, bursar, registrar, financial aid, computer labs and the library, etc). Other folks on campus still have their admin rights for now. The determination of who is restricted is related to the nature of the ERP data to which they have access.
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Salisbury University
Salisbury, MD 21801
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>>> "Thibeault, Dennis" <dthibeau@POST03.CURRY.EDU> 12/5/2011 5:01 PM >>>
Pardon me if this has already been asked…
I’m curious if other colleges and universities grant admin access to desktop or laptops owned and managed by the college and used by faculty or staff. We currently install whatever they need for them and maintain an inventory of all software installed. We track licensing etc. We are hesitant to give people admin access to their machines, but more and more they want to be able to do installations to demo products, get updates that we may not have installed yet, etc.
Just wondering if we’re being overly restrictive.
Thanks for your feedback, Dennis
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All staff in administrative offices do not have admin access to their machines due to the information they have access to. Faculty machines do not have this restriction. To help with some administrative offices, we have designated a "point person" who is given an admin password when they need to install something on their machines, but they must coordinate with their ITS point of contact on this and the password is changed after the installation is complete. Ellen -- Ellen Yu Borkowski Chief Information Officer Information Technology Services Union College 807 Union St. Schenectady, NY 12308 Office: 518.388.6293 Fax: 518.388.6470 Email: eyb@union.edu Web: http://its.union.edu From: "Thibeault, Dennis" > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv > Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:01:04 -0500 To: > Subject: [CIO] Office PCs and Admin Rights Pardon me if this has already been asked… I’m curious if other colleges and universities grant admin access to desktop or laptops owned and managed by the college and used by faculty or staff. We currently install whatever they need for them and maintain an inventory of all software installed. We track licensing etc. We are hesitant to give people admin access to their machines, but more and more they want to be able to do installations to demo products, get updates that we may not have installed yet, etc. Just wondering if we’re being overly restrictive. Thanks for your feedback, Dennis ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out nationally. I am personally skeptical as to whether the promised benefits turn out to be real in the long run, given how long it takes for desktop support to arrive at an office and the frequency with which Acrobat, Firefox and similar essential applications have pushed security-based updates.
Geoff Nathan
Geoffrey S. Nathan
Faculty Liaison, C&IT
and Professor, Linguistics Program
http://blogs.wayne.edu/proftech/
+1 (313) 577-1259 (C&IT)
+1 (313) 577-8621 (English/Linguistics)
Good thread and on a related note, last month, the Australian Defence Signals Directorate identified four security controls that would protect against 85% of targeted attacks, and won the 2011 US National Cybersecurity Innovation Award. Here they
are:
1) Patch applications such as PDF readers, Microsoft Office, Java, Flash Player and web browsers;
2) Patch operating system vulnerabilities;
3) Minimise the number of users with administrative privileges; and
4) Use application whitelisting to help prevent malicious software and other unapproved programs from running.
See also http://www.dsd.gov.au/infosec/top35mitigationstrategies.htm
Not that you need it, but this can go a long way in supporting your decision to not allow local admin privileges.
john
Joseph Moreau
Chief Technology Officer
State University of New York at Oswego
509 Culkin Hall
7060 State Route 104
Oswego, NY 13126
joseph.moreau@oswego.edu
315-312-5500 office
315-806-2166 mobile
315-312-5799 fax
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We do not provide administrative access to users unless they have a documented business need that requires it. Our policy is here - http://www.csuci.edu/it/itpolicy/BP-03-002-Admin-Access-Workstations.doc. In practice, we trust faculty members to determine this need on their own, so faculty requests are routinely granted – all others require a request signed by their supervisor. However, we provide a different service level to users with administrative access – basically, we do not troubleshoot software problems on computers when the user has admin access – we reimage. The SLA is here - http://www.csuci.edu/it/itpolicy/BP-03-002-Enclosure.doc.
Mike, I like your policy! It makes a lot of sense. Out of curiosity: What “ball park” percentage of faculty have asked for admin rights?
Thanks!
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Dennis,
We do not generally grant admin rights. Exceptions for those who use non-College provided software for their work (regardless if faculty or staff) are those have permission to do so from both their immediate supervisor and the ITS Dept lead/CIO
Regards,
Jim
James M. Dutcher - Chair - SUNY Council of CIOs
SUNY Cobleskill - CIO: PMP, CISSP, SCP/Security+, CISA
EMail : dutchejm@cobleskill.edu
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Office: (518) 255-5809
Cell : (518) 657-1056 (work)
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