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We’re currently considering whether to outsource our email service to either Google or Microsoft. I was hoping that those of your who are using Google Apps could help with the following questions.
SSO and Google Apps
If you’re using Shibboleth to authenticate access to Google Apps how do you deal with those who are not using the web interface to Google Apps, i.e. Outlook, IMAP, smart phone and tablet users? Is anyone using ECP? Is it reliable?
Is anyone using a commercial SAML IdP rather than Shibboleth? There seem to be a number of these listed on Google’s pages. Some of them e.g. ‘SSO Easy’ and Viwo claims to be able to work with non-browser access. Has anyone any experience of either of them?
Google Apps Directory Synchronisation
Google say that their tool can’t read the format of AD passwords but one solution is to convert them using a third party tool to a format that it can read and then sync them. This begs the question of why Google don’t buy the company that knows how to do it. However does anyone know of a tool for doing this?
I’m referring to the initial population of their Google account with the same password as their AD one. I know with GAPS you can later sync any changes that the user may make.
It seems to me that the biggest logistical problem we’d face if we moved to Google Apps is communicating to users their initial password. I know we could force all our users to change their AD password and use GAPS to sync the change but I’m nervous about making 40,000 people all change their password at the same time. How have other institutions handled this?
Thanks for your help
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