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Identity and Access Management Discussion Group
This EDUCAUSE discussion group is sponsored by the EDUCAUSE Identity and Access Management Working Group. The purpose of this discussion group is to provide a forum for all topics related to identity and access management, including procedures, technologies, products, administration, prototypes, projects, business models, and many other areas. Participants are encouraged to share experiences about what has and has not worked on their campuses and to suggest ways that the Working Group can organize activities and distribute information that will facilitate deployment of effective identity and access management solutions.
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March 13, 2013
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Dean Woodbeck
Today's IAM Online will feature three campus case studies of Grouper, the community-developed access management software. Presenters include the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the University of Montreal, and Carnegie Mellon University.
3 pm ET today. For details: www.incommon.org/iamonline
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Dean Woodbeck
Program Manager, InCommon
Internet2
woodbeck@internet2.edu
734-352-7007
www.incommon.org
1 Comment
March 12, 2013
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CJ Mizner
Hello,
Does anybody have any successful documentation on configuring ADFS 2.0 for Federated login with Educase? We have imported the Relying Party Trusts from InCommon (and configured federation), and I found the reference below to the attributes but I have yet to find any documentation for those of us just starting out.
https://www.educause.edu/idp_setup/info
Thank you for any additional information you can provide.
CJ Mizner
Information Management & Technology
University of Northern Colorado
Campus Box 19
Snyder Hall, Rm 092
Greeley, CO 80639...
March 11, 2013
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Bryan Wooten
I will throw in my 2 cents.
My first foray into CAS was integrating it with OpenAM (or whatever SUN
called it back then). I modified CAS to accept OpenAM tokens (used the
x509 handler as a template). We also had applications that accepted
PeopleSoft tokens and CAS tokens.
I hated it from an application developer perspective. I believe it is
wrong headed to have applications serve 2 masters. Single logout is
difficult enough, this makes it impossible.
We now have have our SSO all tied to CAS authentication. PeopleSoft uses
CAS, custom in-house WEB applications use CAS, 3rd party apps use CAS, our
Shibboleth IDP defers authentication to CAS.
My belief and recollection is that OpenAM can be configured to use CAS for
authentication.
-Bryan
On 3/11/13 4:17 PM, "William G. Thompson, Jr." wrote:
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March 11, 2013
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David A. Bantz
UA is implementing Banner Enterprise Identity Services (BEIS), one feature of which is support for real-time provisioning via the BEIS "Identity Proxy" and SPML LDAP Adaptor, or via a separate PSP. This note solicits the experience of other institutions who have deployed BEIS and use the real-time provisioning capability to provision identities in AD or a generic LDAP directory.
• Do you use the SPML LDAP Adaptor, or a separate PSP to provision identities into your directory or directories?
• If you evaluated alternative PSPs, what were the deciding factors for you?
• What has your experience been in deploying and operating the provisioning service?
• Do you have any other advice or recommendations for our deployment?
David Bantz
U Alaska IAM
March 11, 2013
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from stefan.wahe@doit.wisc.edu
...
This effort is specific to a distributed environment across the UW-System for about 3,000 users for our business/financial applications. We are still making them available for digital signing and encryption. We also may still use them for research efforts local to UW-Madison. The reasons for the change for these application/populations include:
(1) The need for an agnostic solution that is not driver dependent on OS, browser or device type.
(2) Ability to provide contingency access for staff who have lost or malfunctioning hardware token.
(3) Steps to authentication (this is because of the federated environment we are authenticating between).
I do know that many campuses have successfully deployed a x509 solution for authentication.
Thanks - Stefan
March 11, 2013
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Mark B. Jones
· Yes, a confirmation is immediately sent to a user’s official e-mail address when their password is changed. The mail states when it was changed and who changed it (which could have been someone from the helpdesk).
· No, we don’t send mail about failed changes, only the feedback on the password change form.
· We begin notifying users that their password will expire about a month before. The notifications start weekly and increase to daily the week before the password expires.
· I’m not sure what you mean by role based notifications. Only the user is notified.
...
March 11, 2013
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Mark Clements
I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to share their non-disclosure agreements.
I will be working with my security group to author one soon, and am looking for useful things to include, and if you ran into any 'gotchas' from legal.
Also, anything you wish you had included, but didn't?
Thanks in advance!
-- MC
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Mark Clements
Director of Administrative Computing and Networking
University of Wisconsin Oshkosh
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Mark Clements
Director of Administrative Computing and Networking
University of Wisconsin Oshkosh
March 7, 2013
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Valerie M. Vogel
IAM Online - Wednesday, March 13, 2013
3 pm ET / 2 pm CT / 1 pm MT / Noon PT
www.incommon.org/iamonline
Three Campus Case Studies of Managing Access with Grouper
Is your campus looking for more efficient ways to manage access to course materials, administrative data, and even HR data? Wondering how to set up roles and permissions for administrators, staff and students allowing them to access the resources they need? Tune into the March 13 IAM Online to hear case studies from three campuses highlighting how Grouper, the open source access management software from Internet2, is being used to address group and access management challenges.
Host and Moderator: Tom Barton, University of Chicago
Speakers:
Paul Donahue, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Sebastien Gagne, University of Montreal
Rahul Doshi and Michael Gettes, Carnegie Mellon University
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Connecting
We use Adobe...
March 6, 2013
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from mike_shore@bcit.ca
Hi all,
Our account and email provisioning processes are based on an employee’s start date. However, once in a while we get a request from HR to create a mailbox for a “higher up” (manager or VP) who is starting at some point in the near future. The reasons given
include wanting to set up their calendar schedule, start communicating the new the hire, and get them up to speed so they hit the ground running on their first official day of work.
I understand this desire, but from a security and liability standpoint we’re not comfortable with creating an “unused” account and mailbox. Even if it is a VP, he is not an employee until date X, so why should he have access to our resources before date
X?
Do you have policies or procedures in place to provision employees before their actual start date? Technically,...
March 6, 2013
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Paul Hodgdon
I was wondering if anyone is using any software/appliance to mitigate or detect brute force attacks. Do you do anything with blocking an IP on N number of failed attempts within a timeframe or anything similar? Is there anything specific to something like OpenLDAP or AD?
-Paul
March 4, 2013
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from leifj@sunet.se
On 03/05/2013 01:32 AM, Cantor, Scott
wrote:
February 25, 2013
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Paul Hodgdon
Are any schools doing one-time password reset tokens to an alternate e-mail on file? If so how is it working, any challenges or issues with security? Do you do it for all users or just a subset? Any schools that advise against this and why?
Thanks for the input.
Paul Hodgdon
Sent from my iPhone
February 23, 2013
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Thomas J. Barton
Dear Colleagues,
Below is a reminder to submit your proposals for the first ever Apereo Conference. There will
never be another quite like it!
Thanks,
Tom
--
Tom Barton
Senior Director for Architecture, Integration, and Security
Chief Information Security Officer
Information Technology Services
University of Chicago
+1 773 834 1700 (office)
TWO WEEKS LEFT! Time is running out to submit your proposal by March 4
https://www.concentra-cms.com/cfp/p/apereo13
The deadline for this year's 2013 Apereo conference is two weeks away. Please submit your
proposal so we can learn from you in San Diego, CA, June 2-7, 2013. The conference is an
exciting opportunity to collaborate with your peers in higher education. What makes the
conference so compelling is YOU – your success stories and your amazing work. You may submit a
presentation session, birds of a feather...
February 22, 2013
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Steven T. Carmody
This social identity working group recently spoke during an IAM Online
webinar which described the functionality available with the pilot
social-to-SAML gateway, and the steps a Service Provider would take to
use the gateway.
Next monday's working group conference call will set aside some time for
people who attended the webinar to ask questions about the gateway, its
status, and how to use it.
I'm sending this to the IDM list because IAM Online does not collect
email addresses of attendees, and I suspect some of the attendees heard
the webinar announcement here. In the future, I will not be sending
agendas to this list.
thanks.
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February 21, 2013
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Paul Hodgdon
I was wondering if anyone had a good example of how they are using GUID’s. We had on our technical requirements for implementing OIM that we needed to generate a GUID. Does your IdM system do this now and do you store it in your data sources?
-Paul
IT Accounts & ITSM Applications Manager
University of New Hampshire
Client Services
Primary: (603) 862-2377
Alternate: (603) 862-4242
February 19, 2013
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Dan Malone
I have confirmed this email was also sent to our members using federated authentication via InCommon.
Do these users really need to reset their password?
Since some users will not understand the difference and will follow the EDUCAUSE password reset procedure, what will happen to these member accounts?
Will they still be linked to the InCommon login process?
Thanks,
Dan
(2/19/2013 11:49 AM) Matthew Milliron said the following:
> The information about an EDUCAUSE server breach is accurate.
>
> We have just notified all members and the community via e-mail and social media outlets.
>
> The e-mail notification was sent through our e-mail marketing product (Informz). Links within the e-mail are redirected through our marketing product.
>
> Please note that the password reset page is responding slowly due to increased traffic. Old password have already been deactivated; therefore, you do not need to change your password immediately. We expect traffic to the page to...
February 13, 2013
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Valerie M. Vogel
IAM Online – Wednesday, February 13, 2013
3 pm ET / 2 pm CT / 1 pm MT / Noon PT
Accepting Social Identities: Integration with SAML and Deployment Strategies
Things are moving fast and furious to develop ways to integrate social identities with existing federated SAML-based identity management. The February IAM Online will talk about specific next steps, review the steps in configuring an SP to use the pilot
gateway, answer questions about deployment, and discuss a central Social-to-SAML gateway. Dedra Chamberlin will share another potential Social2SAML gateway model for feedback.
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Host and Moderator: Renee Shuey, Penn State
Speakers:
Steve Carmody, Brown University...
February 11, 2013
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Michael R. Gettes
Fellow IDM travelers,
I am using GADS for managing our forth-coming Google Apps domain for CMU. I am interested in the experience of others regarding the operations aspect of this tool. It wants to send email. Running with WARN doesn't seem to be very useful. I am interested if anyone has come up with what they believe is the right combination of things or a wrapper script for GADS which looks for problems so I you don't get email for every run of the tool - cuz I don't wanna ignore the emails - i just wanna see the problems.
You can reply to the list or directly to me. If directly to me, I will summarize experience to the list.
Many thanks!
/mrg
February 6, 2013
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Corey Scholefield
Great topic. We've also got a
home-grown Banner view that we used to integrate with Sun IDM.
Your question makes me wonder just how much uptake there has been
with BEIS out in the field....?
Corey S.
On 02/06/2013 06:23 AM, Nicholas Pluta wrote:
Corey S.
On 02/06/2013 06:23 AM, Nicholas Pluta wrote:
We are a Banner institution with OIM. Our implementation was based on an Oracle database view that OIM looked for its data. This was done around 2009 before BEIS was an option. Last year we were looking at replacing the view with BEIS, but Ellucian was not interested in offering professional services to help set that up. They instead wanted to sell up a different...
February 5, 2013
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Steven T. Carmody
Last December IAM Online hosted a webinar where several people talked
about a pilot service that allowed people to authenticate at social
identity providers (google, yahoo, etc) and then access services and
applications protected by Shibboleth (SAML). Several applications were
mentioned, including use by Continuing Education courses, parent access
to services, and access by partners not associated with an InCommon
member campus.
The webinar drew a large and enthused audience; the poll taken at the
end of the webinar had a large percentage of attendees indicating a
strong interest in working with and experimenting with this service.
This followup note is to invite people interested in working with the
gateway to attend the next Social Identity Working Group conference
call, scheduled for Monday Feb 11th at noon EST. (Bridge information
included at the bottom of this note.) That call will review cookbooks
describing the implementation steps for using the S2S gateway...
November 30, 2011
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Rodney Petersen
(Please excuse the cross-posts.)
The U.S. Department of Education Federal Student Aid technology office announced this week at the 2011 Federal Student Aid Conference its plans to issue 90,000 tokens to privileged users who have access to Personally Identifiable Information on FSA systems. The privileged users will include financial aid staff at your institutions. More information is available at http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/CSD6059.pdf
We will also feature the Department’s plans next week as part of IAM Online (www.incommon.org/iamonline) scheduled for Tuesday, December 6th, at 3 p.m. ET / 2 p.m. CT / Noon PT....
July 25, 2012
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Jeremiah Adams
Hello IdM Community,
We are facing a couple of challenges here at the University of Colorado Denver | Anschutz Medical Campus that I anticipate some of you have worked to conclusion, and therefore would like to ask for your insights.
A bit of our environmental background is that we are an Oracle Identity Management (OIM) shop, focusing our energies on making that suite (OIM, OVD, OID, OIF, OAM) of products as productive as possible for us. We also rely heavily on Microsoft for messaging services, having a large majority of our constituency supported by Live@edu, and moving in the near future to Office 365, while also maintaining on premises exchange services for some portions of our constituency.
Now for the questions:
1) ...
April 24, 2012
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from corey.pedersen@utah.edu
Our IAM program has promoted the use of a Virtual Directory Server (VDS) as a focal point for our Identity Services. This would be utilized to virtualize data from our enterprise systems and aggregate access to our other directories and AD.
I was hoping that some of you could comment on your successes or failures utilizing a VDS in this manor. What kind of performance have you encountered? Ease(or otherwise) of use, etc.
If you wish to comment on particular vendors and do not feel comfortable doing so in this open forum, please send me your comments directly, with which I will be sensitive with their access.
Thanks in advance for your help,
...
December 5, 2011
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Keith D. Hazelton
See agenda item 2 on today's MACE-Dir call
___________________
2. Expanded IMS roles vocabulary and eduCourse revisions
- For revised role vocabulary, see Appendix B of
http://www.imsglobal.org/lis/lisv2p0pd/MMSinfoModelv2p0pd.html
- See also the full document set drafts of version 2.0 of Learning Information Services:
http://www.imsglobal.org/lis/index.html
The set of role types that a Person can have for their Memberships. The core vocabulary is:
· Learner
· Instructor
· ContentDeveloper
· Member
· Manager
· Mentor
· Administrator
· TeachingAssistant
· Officer
Rule B.1-01: Learner – the role of someone...
July 26, 2012
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from alacer.cogitatus@gmail.com
Good Evening List, I was wondering how many Higher Ed Schools have a photo directory (students and faculty and staff) and how you implemented it. There is some debate at my institution over querying a MSSQL Database to pull the image, or using powershell to populate Active Directory and doing the lookup that way. I wanted to get input and see what others are doing. Thanks! K
Good Evening List, I was wondering how many Higher Ed Schools have a photo directory (students and faculty and staff) and how you implemented it. There is some debate at my institution over querying a MSSQL Database to pull the image, or using powershell to populate Active Directory and doing the lookup that way. I wanted to get input and see what others are doing. Thanks! K
May 29, 2012
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from mike_shore@bcit.ca
Hi everyone,
We use SungardHE Ellucian Banner as our ERP, and AD as our authentication directory. We are moving towards a Microsoft-centric environment, with Exchange, Sharepoint and eventually Lync. We have hit a problem whereby some staff have multiple
jobs (ie. part time instructor, as well as full time Payroll clerk). In these cases, Banner is able to track multiple jobs for a single person. However, AD only supports single values for attributes like Department, Job Title and Supervisor.
I realize there is no simple way to map multiple values in Banner down to a single value in AD. We have tried to determine what the person’s “primary” job is, based on hours committed to each job and other criteria. We have also considered using custom
AD attributes to store additional information about an employee, but that info might not be...
February 20, 2012
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Todd Dergenski
Hello All:
We are currently updating our password policies to be more ISO complaint and I seem to be hitting a snag. There seems to be little to no guidance on what “not vulnerable to dictionary attacks” really means. From what I can gather, there seem to be 3 different styles of dictionary checkers out there. The lowest style seems to check if the password contains whole words: $password. Kind of a medium style strips all special/numeric characters and checks the remainder against the dictionary: pa$ss$wo$rd. The strongest seems to do a reverse l33t on the password to see if it was dictionary based: p@$$w0rd. All of these are technically dictionary checkers and have obvious security vs. user supportability problems, but out of everyone out there, which style have you implemented? Did you implement it across your entire organization or selected...
February 25, 2013
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Paul Hodgdon
Are any schools doing one-time password reset tokens to an alternate e-mail on file? If so how is it working, any challenges or issues with security? Do you do it for all users or just a subset? Any schools that advise against this and why?
Thanks for the input.
Paul Hodgdon
Sent from my iPhone
January 7, 2013
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Valerie M. Vogel
**************
IAM Online – Wednesday, January 16, 2012
1 pm ET | Noon CT | 11 am MT | 10 am PT
**************
Scalable Privacy: An NSTIC Grant for the Identity Ecosystem
Are you interested in providing users more control over privacy, including consenting to release of attributes and actively managing their identity in cyberspace? Would you like to hear about a national effort to build a consistent and robust privacy infrastructure?
Join us for this IAM Online, where Ken Klingenstein of Internet2 will discuss how this federal pilot program will help develop tools and technologies to achieve these goals.
Under the grant, provided by NIST through the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, Internet2 and partner campuses will build this...
March 2, 2012
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Michael R. Gettes
Kind beings,
I am seeking any software people have to recommend for LDAP Log Analysis against 389/Fedora/Redhat/SunOne/iPlanet/Netscape directory server. I know years ago Brendan wrote something but it doesn't appear to be available any longer. I am wanting to know who are the top users of the directory, the operations they are performing, attributes requested and any other useful data. For monitoring, we are going with CN=Monitor - nice little web tool but getting top-talkers and the like doesn't seem to be readily available. Of course, my google foo ain't so good.
Many thanks in advance!
/mrg
December 13, 2011
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Ramanarao Chamarty
I am looking for resources which can guide us in setting up Shiboleth and InCommon for federation – start to finish - at Temple University. Thank you in advance.
Ramana Chamarty
Director, Temple University
r.c@temple.edu
April 26, 2013
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Gary Chapman
Our SSL certificate (located on an F5 load balancer) used when accessing our LDAP
directories is about to expire. The directory is Oracle (ne Sun) and the certificate
is Verisign 1024 bits. The F5 does SSL termination. There are several hundred
hosts that bind to the directory on a given day, many representing major systems.
While arranging for testing, we are also trying to gauge the client system (wide variety)
impact of updating to
(a) a Verisign 2048 bit cert
or
(b) an InCommon 2048 bit cert
While InCommon would our preference, our highest priority is to minimize the number of
client systems/applications that need manual certificate updates.
Anyone have recent experience (or sage advice) with such a maneuver?
Thanks - Gary...
March 6, 2013
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Paul Hodgdon
I was wondering if anyone is using any software/appliance to mitigate or detect brute force attacks. Do you do anything with blocking an IP on N number of failed attempts within a timeframe or anything similar? Is there anything specific to something like OpenLDAP or AD?
-Paul
November 15, 2012
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from benjamin.oshrin@the.oshrinium.net
For those of you with home grown ID match systems (perl scripts, etc), what, if any fuzzy matching do you do and how do you do it? I'm specifically looking for details like "We have a lookup table of firstnames, so if we get a first name of Bill we'll also check the database for Will and William" or "We pull any records with the same SSN and the same (or transposed) DOB, and then use the perl module Text::LevenshteinXS to compare the candidate names." Thanks, -Benn-
For those of you with home grown ID match systems (perl scripts, etc), what, if any fuzzy matching do you do and how do you do it? I'm specifically looking for details like "We have a lookup table of firstnames, so if we get a first name of Bill we'll also check the database for Will and William" or "We pull any records with the same SSN and the same (or transposed) DOB, and then use the perl module Text::LevenshteinXS to compare the candidate names." Thanks, -Benn-
May 1, 2013
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Valerie M. Vogel
The IAM Online webinar series has scheduled a special series of virtual
working group meetings to showcase key identity and access management
tools and services.
Working groups will provide project overviews, discuss current work, and
entertain questions. These will be interactive sessions, using Adobe
Connect for slide-sharing and chat discussions, and a phone bridge for
participating and posting questions.
Join us to:
* hear an overview of each project
* find out about the current work
* learn how your campus can benefit
Sessions on Monday, May 20, include (all times Eastern)
Noon - 1:15 pm - Grouper
1:30 - 2:45 pm - Shibboleth
3:00 - 4:15 pm - Interfederation and CIFER (two separate topics)
Sessions on Tuesday, May 21, include (all times Eastern)
Noon - 1:15 pm - Social Identity
1:30 - 2:45 pm - CoCoA (collaboration platform)
3:00 - 4:15 pm - MACE-DIR
A wiki page includes background information on each of these working
groups, agendas, and dial-in/Adobe Connect information:...
March 19, 2013
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David Langenberg
Hi All,
The University of Chicago is undertaking a project to replace our present LDAP infrastructure (Oracle Directory Server Enterprise Edition v 11) with something not Oracle. The three leading candidates we have selected are:
OpenDJ by ForgeRock
OpenLDAP
Port 389 / RedHat DS
Would anybody who happens to already be running one of the above systems mind chiming in about their experiences (good and bad)? Also, if you would please let me know if you could go back in time, would you select the product you're presently running?
Thanks
Dave
--
David Langenberg
Identity & Access Management
The University of Chicago
March 11, 2013
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David A. Bantz
UA is implementing Banner Enterprise Identity Services (BEIS), one feature of which is support for real-time provisioning via the BEIS "Identity Proxy" and SPML LDAP Adaptor, or via a separate PSP. This note solicits the experience of other institutions who have deployed BEIS and use the real-time provisioning capability to provision identities in AD or a generic LDAP directory.
• Do you use the SPML LDAP Adaptor, or a separate PSP to provision identities into your directory or directories?
• If you evaluated alternative PSPs, what were the deciding factors for you?
• What has your experience been in deploying and operating the provisioning service?
• Do you have any other advice or recommendations for our deployment?
David Bantz
U Alaska IAM
March 4, 2013
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from leifj@sunet.se
On 03/05/2013 01:32 AM, Cantor, Scott
wrote:
February 8, 2012
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Peter Bosanko
Currently, we populate Active Directory and our enterprise directory with
nightly feeds from PeopleSoft, where for the most part, PeopleSoft is the
data of record.
We are about to introduce Workday into the mix, and I expect other cloud
products aren't far behind. As such, I'm compelled to reconsider how we
organize identities. One challenge for us is to decide where the data of
record is for personal information: Workday, PeopleSoft, both, or a
dedicated identity management system.
I'm wondering what other schools are doing on this front. Have any of you
implemented/deployed identity management systems that act as the data of
record for person records, instead of being fed by, for instance,
PeopleSoft? I'm trying to get the sense of what if any pitfalls there are
to this strategy.
Thanks for your help.
- Pete
Pete Bosanko
Manager - Identity Management
736 Rhodes Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY
607-254-8683
January 13, 2012
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Listserv Anonymous User
Message from pmorley@mcdaniel.edu
Good Morning,
We are looking for a solution for Single Sign-On that can be implemented fairly quickly that supports either CAS or SAML.
We have an outside vendor who is trying to integrate with us.
Has anyone worked with SSO Easy, a 3rd party company that provides a Windows based SSO provider, but is specific to the integration from the perspective of licensing.
Thanks.
Phillip Morley
Jr. Systems Administrator | Information Technology
McDaniel College
2 College Hill
Westminster, MD 21157
( Office: (410) 857-2540
y E-mail: pmorley@mcdaniel.edu
Jr. Systems Administrator | Information Technology
McDaniel College
2 College Hill
Westminster, MD 21157
( Office: (410) 857-2540
y E-mail: pmorley@mcdaniel.edu
















