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Self Service Password Reset
For those of you who have self service password reset tools, do you maintain a list of users who are excluded from using the tool? If so, how did you go about establishing your criteria?
Shawn
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Shawn A. Kohrman, Security ArchitectAzusa Pacific University
Information & Media Technology
Information & Media Technology
901 E. Alosta Ave., PO Box 7000
Azusa, CA 91702-7000
Azusa, CA 91702-7000
P: 626.815.2054 | F: 626.815.2061 | http://www.apu.edu/
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Maybe I am missing something obvious, but why would you want to exclude users from being able to reset their own password? Our self-service requires "multi-factor" authentication (answer security questions & access to external email account or cell phone), and unless the user has not provided the required information (or doesn't remember what it was), she should be able to reset the password. We encourage this as much as possible, as it reduces the load on the HD. Even if the customer calls the help desk and needs some kind of manual intervention (forgot answers, never set it up, etc), they will walk her through setting up and using the self-service tools so that next time maybe she will not need to call. ::Adam >
Information & Media Technology
Azusa, CA 91702-7000
That is why we went with the two factor approach, to mitigate against a guessing attack. Most everyone has at least either a cell phone or a second email address. Of course, if they've used the same easily guessed questions for their external email password reset.... ::Adam > -----Original Message----- > From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Shawn Kohrman > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 17:47 > To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Self Service Password Reset > > Excellent point Adam. The particular case we were considering with this > question was our high level people (provost, president, etc). Namely, what > would happen if someone were able to answer the challenge questions and > take over their account. How much damage could be caused in such an > instance. Granted, the likelihood of that happening is very low, but still... > > I wanted to ask the question to determine if we were being overzealous on > this particular point. Thanks! > > Shawn > > ----- > Shawn A. Kohrman, Security Architect > > > Azusa Pacific University > Information & Media Technology > 901 E. Alosta Ave., PO Box 7000 > Azusa, CA 91702-7000 > > P: 626.815.2054 | F: 626.815.2061 | http://www.apu.edu/ > ----- > > > >
I know the vendor that we use for Password Reset does recommend that you specifically block IT Staff accounts from enrollment via the system. (Particularly privileged accounts). Depending upon how you are setup, one reason to block some accounts, for example is if you cannot easily control whether those with Help Desk administrative reset capability, for example, perhaps students- can potentially reset privileged accounts or executive accounts and potentially access data privileged information. Of course, there are ways to properly manage this in some systems, such as Active Directory, but sometimes directory structure is designed for several purposes that don’t always neatly fit into every neat category of business function that applications might need.
D/C
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:38 PM
To: Dexter Caldwell; SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Self Service Password Reset
Importance: Low
Maybe I am missing something obvious, but why would you want to exclude users from being able to reset their own password? Our self-service requires "multi-factor" authentication (answer security questions & access to external email account or cell phone), and unless the user has not provided the required information (or doesn't remember what it was), she should be able to reset the password. We encourage this as much as possible, as it reduces the load on the HD. Even if the customer calls the help desk and needs some kind of manual intervention (forgot answers, never set it up, etc), they will walk her through setting up and using the self-service tools so that next time maybe she will not need to call.
::Adam
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Security Analyst
Murray State University
(270) 809-4414
aperry@murraystate.edu
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:10 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
***Siena ITS staff will NEVER ask for your password or other confidential information via email.***
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
I’ve heard about Forefront before but haven’t seen anything official. Do you have a link?
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:39 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
How are you going to handle the news that Microsoft is pulling most of their Forefront product line? I know they are going to provide support for a couple more years, but - it feels like they are leaving us hanging??
M
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Santabarbara, Angelo [asantabarbara@SIENA.EDU]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:10 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
We have recently implemented the Microsoft Forefront Identity Management (FIM) password portal and it has worked very nicely for us to provide a mechanism to for users to reset their own passwords. Part of our Google Apps for Education migration process required all users to reset their passwords. We used this time to implement FIM, register reset questions, change passwords, and sync those passwords with Google. In addition, the portal works well as the location Google sends users to change passwords via the Google change password links.
Angelo D. Santabarbara
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
***Siena ITS staff will NEVER ask for your password or other confidential information via email.***
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
As we move further into distance learning and remote locations, how are you handling users who forgot their password? Do you have software in place that allows users to reset their own passwords? Was it purchased or written in-house? If you don’t have any software that does this is it cost or security concerns that are presenting the biggest road blocks?
Jason Rinne
Systems Administrator
500 E. College Street ∙ Marshall, MO 65340
P 660-831-4088
rinnej@moval.edu
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Security Analyst
Murray State University
(270) 809-4414
aperry@murraystate.edu
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:10 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
***Siena ITS staff will NEVER ask for your password or other confidential information via email.***
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
I’ve heard about Forefront before but haven’t seen anything official. Do you have a link?
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:39 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
How are you going to handle the news that Microsoft is pulling most of their Forefront product line? I know they are going to provide support for a couple more years, but - it feels like they are leaving us hanging??
M
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Santabarbara, Angelo [asantabarbara@SIENA.EDU]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:10 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
We have recently implemented the Microsoft Forefront Identity Management (FIM) password portal and it has worked very nicely for us to provide a mechanism to for users to reset their own passwords. Part of our Google Apps for Education migration process required all users to reset their passwords. We used this time to implement FIM, register reset questions, change passwords, and sync those passwords with Google. In addition, the portal works well as the location Google sends users to change passwords via the Google change password links.
Angelo D. Santabarbara
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
***Siena ITS staff will NEVER ask for your password or other confidential information via email.***
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.
I submitted the question to some Microsoft contacts and was directed to this url:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-changes-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of SCHALIP, MICHAEL
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:39 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
How are you going to handle the news that Microsoft is pulling most of their Forefront product line? I know they are going to provide support for a couple more years, but - it feels like they are leaving us hanging??
M
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Santabarbara, Angelo [asantabarbara@SIENA.EDU]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:10 AM
To: SECURITY@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Reset
We have recently implemented the Microsoft Forefront Identity Management (FIM) password portal and it has worked very nicely for us to provide a mechanism to for users to reset their own passwords. Part of our Google Apps for Education migration process required all users to reset their passwords. We used this time to implement FIM, register reset questions, change passwords, and sync those passwords with Google. In addition, the portal works well as the location Google sends users to change passwords via the Google change password links.
Angelo D. Santabarbara
Director of Networks & Systems
Siena College
518-782-6996
ASantabarbara@siena.edu
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please inform the sender by e-mail reply and destroy all copies of the original message.