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Following up on Home Use Program authentication, it looks to me as if a user can go to this page:

http://www.microsofthup.com/hupus/home.aspx?dialect_id=en-US&country_id=US

click on the "Don't Know Your Program Code? Click Here." link, enter their email address, and if their email domain is on the approved list, Microsoft will email them a link they can click on to purchase without further authentication. In other words, no program code entry required. That's a problem for those schools using the same email domain for students and facstaff.

Anyone want to confirm?


On 1/31/2013 8:44 AM, Mike Ferdinando wrote:

That's exactly how we handle it at Cornell University, as well, with similar results.

 

 

Mike Ferdinando

CIT Support Services

Service Manager – CU Software

Cornell Information Technologies

Suite 220 CCC Bldg, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853

607-254-8743  |  mike.ferdinando@cornell.edu

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Deborah Tafil
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:03 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Office 2013 media

 

At the University of Minnesota our staff and students all have the same domain, so we have the HUP program code behind authentication at the staff/faculty level, meaning that students cannot access the page that has the code on it.  This doesn't prevent with 100% certainty that the code won't get shared, but we state a few times that the code cannot be shared amongst others at the University, with the hope that it won't get into students hands.  So far there is no indication that the code has been used by anyone other than staff and faculty. 

  ..Deborah

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Deborah Tafil
Software License Coordinator
University of Minnesota
Information Technology
________________________________
Phone: 612-625-2305 | Fax: 612-626-1818
E-mail: dtafil@umn.edu
www.oit.umn.edu/utools/


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Hi,

Does anyone know if Microsoft can supply a file of accounts which used HUP? 

Although it’s after the fact it could be used to check to see if students are downloading.

Thanks

 

John

 

 

John H. Sheshene
Manager, Academic Software
Information Technology

St. John's University

8000 Utopia Parkway

Queens, NY 11439

(718) 990-1674
sheshenj@stjohns.edu

 

 

Remember St John’s University will never ask for your password.   Please do not share it with others!

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Warren Robords
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:00 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [LICENSING] HUP Authentication

 

Following up on Home Use Program authentication, it looks to me as if a user can go to this page:

http://www.microsofthup.com/hupus/home.aspx?dialect_id=en-US&country_id=US

click on the "Don't Know Your Program Code? Click Here." link, enter their email address, and if their email domain is on the approved list, Microsoft will email them a link they can click on to purchase without further authentication. In other words, no program code entry required. That's a problem for those schools using the same email domain for students and facstaff.

Anyone want to confirm?

On 1/31/2013 8:44 AM, Mike Ferdinando wrote:

That's exactly how we handle it at Cornell University, as well, with similar results.

 

 

Mike Ferdinando

CIT Support Services

Service Manager – CU Software

Cornell Information Technologies

Suite 220 CCC Bldg, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853

607-254-8743  |  mike.ferdinando@cornell.edu

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Deborah Tafil
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:03 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Office 2013 media

 

At the University of Minnesota our staff and students all have the same domain, so we have the HUP program code behind authentication at the staff/faculty level, meaning that students cannot access the page that has the code on it.  This doesn't prevent with 100% certainty that the code won't get shared, but we state a few times that the code cannot be shared amongst others at the University, with the hope that it won't get into students hands.  So far there is no indication that the code has been used by anyone other than staff and faculty. 

  ..Deborah

--
Deborah Tafil
Software License Coordinator
University of Minnesota
Information Technology
________________________________
Phone: 612-625-2305 | Fax: 612-626-1818
E-mail: dtafil@umn.edu
www.oit.umn.edu/utools/


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Hello,

 

As you may know, Digital River runs the Microsoft HUP store.  Please allow me this opportunity to answer your questions.

 

It is up to the university to restrict student access to the HUP store if the school does not license Microsoft Office under student option.  You may supply Microsoft with a “whitelist” to ensure only qualified users are able to obtain the download through the HUP site. 

 

When the user obtains the software, they “click to agree” to the terms of the license.  If they are not a qualified user and they obtain the download, the user is responsible to buy a license.  I can’t answer on behalf of Microsoft, but I would ascertain that as long as the university has made a good faith effort to prevent students access to the HUP program, there will be no consequences if a few transactions slip through under the radar.

 

It is worth noting that we (Digital River) track total qualifying FTE for each enrollment.   Once the total number of qualified users consume the download during the enrollment period, no additional transactions will not be allowed until either a new version of the software is released or the enrollment has been renewed.   To date, only one academic institution has reached 100% consumption level and only two others have reached 50% consumption.  

 

We’ve noticed that most schools make the program available to their employees initially but don’t continue to communicate the value of HUP on an ongoing basis.  The attach rate in academia for WAH is significantly lower than in the commercial space.  If you would like ideas or user ready materials to send out to your employees about the Microsoft HUP program, please let me know.

 


Thanks,    

 

 

 

 

Timothy W. Lilly | National Consortia Manager

Digital River Education Services, Inc.

timothy.lilly@journeyeducation.com | www.JourneyEd.com 

My mobile number has changed!!

Office: 800.876.3507 x12515 | Mobile: 469.263.7627

Fax: 972.481.2100

Digital River, Inc. | 5212 Tennyson Pkwy Suite 130 | Plano, TX 75024 | USA

 

              

 

      

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Sheshene
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:31 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] HUP Authentication

 

Hi,

Does anyone know if Microsoft can supply a file of accounts which used HUP? 

Although it’s after the fact it could be used to check to see if students are downloading.

Thanks

 

John

 

 

John H. Sheshene
Manager, Academic Software
Information Technology

St. John's University

8000 Utopia Parkway

Queens, NY 11439

(718) 990-1674
sheshenj@stjohns.edu

 

 

Remember St John’s University will never ask for your password.   Please do not share it with others!

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Warren Robords
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:00 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [LICENSING] HUP Authentication

 

Following up on Home Use Program authentication, it looks to me as if a user can go to this page:

http://www.microsofthup.com/hupus/home.aspx?dialect_id=en-US&country_id=US

click on the "Don't Know Your Program Code? Click Here." link, enter their email address, and if their email domain is on the approved list, Microsoft will email them a link they can click on to purchase without further authentication. In other words, no program code entry required. That's a problem for those schools using the same email domain for students and facstaff.

Anyone want to confirm?

On 1/31/2013 8:44 AM, Mike Ferdinando wrote:

That's exactly how we handle it at Cornell University, as well, with similar results.

 

 

Mike Ferdinando

CIT Support Services

Service Manager – CU Software

Cornell Information Technologies

Suite 220 CCC Bldg, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853

607-254-8743  |  mike.ferdinando@cornell.edu

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Deborah Tafil
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:03 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Office 2013 media

 

At the University of Minnesota our staff and students all have the same domain, so we have the HUP program code behind authentication at the staff/faculty level, meaning that students cannot access the page that has the code on it.  This doesn't prevent with 100% certainty that the code won't get shared, but we state a few times that the code cannot be shared amongst others at the University, with the hope that it won't get into students hands.  So far there is no indication that the code has been used by anyone other than staff and faculty. 

  ..Deborah

--
Deborah Tafil
Software License Coordinator
University of Minnesota
Information Technology
________________________________
Phone: 612-625-2305 | Fax: 612-626-1818
E-mail: dtafil@umn.edu
www.oit.umn.edu/utools/


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