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I would love to hear what other schools have decided to do with Lynda.com in the last year or two. The company seems to be ending, or trying hard to end, any sort of program other than full Lynda Campus licenses. At minimum it feels they are committed to making it so difficult to use any other type of license that we will eventually give up and pay the seemingly over priced and non-negotiable rate for the site license. 

I'm pulling my hair out here, I can't even seem to get a quote for anything other than a campus agreement. I've asked numerous times and our rep dodges the question and continues trying to explain why we really want a lynda campus agreement. Our users seem to like the service, and the campus agreement would be nice, but the cost just seems out of this world. They want numerous dollars per FTE, based on full FTE count, for a service that I just can't see having that high an adoption rate. 

Honest feedback appreciated, if I'm the one who's crazy I'd rather hear it from peers than a vendor. :-)

Thanks, 

Evan Levine
Manager, IT
Software License & Lab Engineering
Duke University Office of Information Technology
elevine@duke.edu
919-599-5644

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Evan, That is the route they are promoting. It is FTE count, annual prepaid subscription. If you decide to go that route, Ensure uptime and credits,Privacy and Warranties. We promoted it on our website internally so that the students start using it- and we try to get our money's worth. In lieu of this extra costs the University is tightening costs around the class room professional trainings for these standard classes. The students have started using and prefer the mobility of anywhere- anytime videos. Time will tell if it will keep up the quality and range of training videos, or fizzle out like others before! Anna Evan Levine wrote: > I would love to hear what other schools have decided to do with > Lynda.com in the last year or two. The company seems > to be ending, or trying hard to end, any sort of program other than full > Lynda Campus licenses. At minimum it feels they are committed to making > it so difficult to use any other type of license that we will eventually > give up and pay the seemingly over priced and non-negotiable rate for > the site license. > > I'm pulling my hair out here, I can't even seem to get a quote for > anything other than a campus agreement. I've asked numerous times and > our rep dodges the question and continues trying to explain why we > really want a lynda campus agreement. Our users seem to like the > service, and the campus agreement would be nice, but the cost just seems > out of this world. They want numerous dollars per FTE, based on full FTE > count, for a service that I just can't see having that high an adoption > rate. > > Honest feedback appreciated, if I'm the one who's crazy I'd rather hear > it from peers than a vendor. :-) > > Thanks, > > Evan Levine > Manager, IT > Software License & Lab Engineering > Duke University Office of Information Technology > elevine@duke.edu > 919-599-5644 > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Message from ann.brainard-dougan@yale.edu

We too have opted in. Our library and a number of professional schools here wanted access to Lynda contents so we signed on and will do our best to promote usage and monitor usage to see if we can make the program work going forward. In a time of tight or non-existent training budget the response to date has been overwhelmingly positive though, as Anna said, time (and usage metrics) will tell. - Ann Ann Brainard-Dougan ann.brainard-dougan@yale.edu Software Administrator Yale University Vendor Management 150 Munson Street, 4th Floor New Haven, CT  06511 (US Mail:  P.O. Box 208207 New Haven,  CT 06520-8207) Phone:  203-737-6021 Cell:  203-687-9695
Evan,

Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell from Lynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.

Bill

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Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide the Lynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Evan,

 

Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell from Lynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.

 

Bill

 

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Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Are any sites using Atomic Learning instead of Lynda.com? I know little about either one but our distance education group licensed Atomic Learning some time recently as I understand it.  

 

Marty Hoag

NDSU

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide the Lynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Evan,

 

Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell from Lynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.

 

Bill

 

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Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Yes, Wright State University chose Atomic over Lynda several years ago.  I didn't negotiate this deal, our head of Client Services (help desk and desktop services group) signed the agreement. One of the advantages for her was the ability to add our own custom content to the system, so that our university-specific training is listed alongside Atomic's standard product offerings. The Atomic training isn't fancy, but it works well for us.  Another feature I like is that most training is broken down into short 5 minute chapters, so if you just want to learn a specific function (ie: how to make a chart in Excel) you can just go through that module. 

At one point a few years ago we did negotiate better pricing based on several schools here in Ohio expressing interest in Atomic.

If you want to know more, I can send you the contact info for our Assistant Director for Client Services.

- Verne


On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Hoag, Martin wrote:

Are any sites using Atomic Learning instead of Lynda.com? I know little about either one but our distance education group licensed Atomic Learning some time recently as I understand it.  
 
Marty Hoag
NDSU
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide the Lynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
Evan,
 
Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell from Lynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.
 
Bill
 

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Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Jerry, 

When you say the rate was based on official student count, did that provide access only to students? Or was the agreement cost based on student count and inclusive of Staff/Faculty use?

- Evan



 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide theLynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
Evan,
 
Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell fromLynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.
 
Bill
 

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Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Evan, the count was based on the student count but it was also inclusive for the staff and Faculty.  One price for a three year period and they gave us an “early adopter” discount for year one (pretty deep cut really) to get us to drink the kool-aid.  v/r Jerry

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:05 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Jerry, 

 

When you say the rate was based on official student count, did that provide access only to students? Or was the agreement cost based on student count and inclusive of Staff/Faculty use?

 

- Evan

 

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide theLynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Evan,

 

Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell fromLynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.

 

Bill

 

<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>

The plot thickens... 

Anyone else have their pricing based on student count? When we first started looking at lyndaCampus we were told by our rep that the cost was based on student count but included the whole university. When we went to purchase the agreement earlier this year, we were told that was not true, and had to update our count to more than double what it had initially been and include all students, staff, and faculty. That's what made the price way out of the reasonable range. 

I wonder if some of us are paying a fair amount based on student size and others are paying for all FTE?

- Evan


On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Gerald Lynn Allen wrote:

Evan, the count was based on the student count but it was also inclusive for the staff and Faculty.  One price for a three year period and they gave us an “early adopter” discount for year one (pretty deep cut really) to get us to drink the kool-aid.  v/r Jerry
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:05 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
Jerry, 
 
When you say the rate was based on official student count, did that provide access only to students? Or was the agreement cost based on student count and inclusive of Staff/Faculty use?
 
- Evan
 
 
 
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide theLynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
Evan,
 
Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell fromLynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.
 
Bill
 

<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Thanks for the info Evan –

 

This is disheartening news!  I was going to explore a possible new contract for Memphis – but as others have mentioned, a concurrent licensing model make the most sense for institutions like mine, and where future usage is unknown.  We simply can’t afford to pay for licenses if they are not being used.

 

Steve

 

Steven A. Terry

Director, Technology Utilization

University of Memphis

AD 377

Memphis, TN 38115

Desk:  901-678-2194

Cell:  901-258-5205

 

Twitter: tigersteve

FB: steve.terry1

Skype: tigersterry

 

 

Your mileage may vary, there are a good number of schools that seem to be content with these agreements. I think a large part of it may be that we are coming from an existing licensing model we were accustomed to which is being phased out. 

The tool itself is great, our users love it, so I'm trying to remain hopeful that we can get something worked out. I agree though that a concurrent licensing model would make a lot of sense. If a vendor is going to offer only individual style licensing or full site licenses and nothing in between, it seems to me it would make sense to make the site licenses a little less cost prohibitive. 

I think we're going to try to move forward with this on a short term basis and see if usage justifies the cost in the long term. Largely I think this will come down to a question of, will people stop spending money on other forms of training if we offer this tool in full campus form? Or will it just be another nice alternative and additional expense. If the latter it will be hard to justify. 

- Evan



Message from shafiear@ucmail.uc.edu

Hi Evan,

 

At the University of Cincinnati, we recently looked into this and actually came very close to buying the campus license that is based on the FTE model. Actually, we thought the price per FTE was reasonable and we informed them we would use an FTE model similar to the one we have been using for the Microsoft Campus Agreement contract (now called EES).   They seemed to agree.  We decided not to do it this year because of an internal budgetary matter. We most probably will sign on in the next fiscal year.

 

Amin Shafie

University of Cincinnati Information Technologies (UCIT)

513-556-9001

Amin.Shafie@UC.Edu

 

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:08 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Your mileage may vary, there are a good number of schools that seem to be content with these agreements. I think a large part of it may be that we are coming from an existing licensing model we were accustomed to which is being phased out. 

 

The tool itself is great, our users love it, so I'm trying to remain hopeful that we can get something worked out. I agree though that a concurrent licensing model would make a lot of sense. If a vendor is going to offer only individual style licensing or full site licenses and nothing in between, it seems to me it would make sense to make the site licenses a little less cost prohibitive. 

 

I think we're going to try to move forward with this on a short term basis and see if usage justifies the cost in the long term. Largely I think this will come down to a question of, will people stop spending money on other forms of training if we offer this tool in full campus form? Or will it just be another nice alternative and additional expense. If the latter it will be hard to justify. 

 

- Evan

 

 

 

We were able to renew our LyndaPro account with a fixed number of licenses just last month. No hassles or push to go to a campus agreement.
 
We reviewed usage stats and came up with the following:
 - per hour cost for courses taken: $4/hour
 - per movie viewed: $0.43 per movie
 
We could not provide in-house training at these rates. We are pleased with our usage and overall costs.
 
Rick DeVries
Calvin College


>>> Evan Levine <elevine@DUKE.EDU> 2/14/2012 1:14 PM >>>
I would love to hear what other schools have decided to do with Lynda.com in the last year or two. The company seems to be ending, or trying hard to end, any sort of program other than full Lynda Campus licenses. At minimum it feels they are committed to making it so difficult to use any other type of license that we will eventually give up and pay the seemingly over priced and non-negotiable rate for the site license. 

I'm pulling my hair out here, I can't even seem to get a quote for anything other than a campus agreement. I've asked numerous times and our rep dodges the question and continues trying to explain why we really want a lynda campus agreement. Our users seem to like the service, and the campus agreement would be nice, but the cost just seems out of this world. They want numerous dollars per FTE, based on full FTE count, for a service that I just can't see having that high an adoption rate. 

Honest feedback appreciated, if I'm the one who's crazy I'd rather hear it from peers than a vendor. :-)

Thanks, 

Evan Levine
Manager, IT
Software License & Lab Engineering
Duke University Office of Information Technology
elevine@duke.edu
919-599-5644

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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Rick, 

We're considering LyndaPro as a lower cost option as well. Would you mind sharing how you manage those licenses? My understanding is that they can be moved around between individuals, but that must be a manual process by an administrator of sorts, it cannot be automated according to Lynda.com folks. 

Do you move these often? Or just purchase 1 per interested individual and let them keep it for a year?

Thanks!

- Evan



Good morning all, 

I wanted to give an update to this thread, and am curious how things have been going for others as well. Over the last few months we've been able to reach what I feel is a very fair agreement with Lynda.com, and will be moving forward with the LyndaCampus agreement this summer. We've always been excited by the service offering here, but as many of you know justifying the cost can be challenging. My hope is that we'll use the next 12 months to get better usage statistics and gauge the success of the purchase. 

Evan Levine
Assistant Director, Academic Services
Duke University Office of Information Technology
elevine@duke.edu
919-599-5644


On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Evan Levine wrote:

The plot thickens... 

Anyone else have their pricing based on student count? When we first started looking at lyndaCampus we were told by our rep that the cost was based on student count but included the whole university. When we went to purchase the agreement earlier this year, we were told that was not true, and had to update our count to more than double what it had initially been and include all students, staff, and faculty. That's what made the price way out of the reasonable range. 

I wonder if some of us are paying a fair amount based on student size and others are paying for all FTE?

- Evan


On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Gerald Lynn Allen wrote:

Evan, the count was based on the student count but it was also inclusive for the staff and Faculty.  One price for a three year period and they gave us an “early adopter” discount for year one (pretty deep cut really) to get us to drink the kool-aid.  v/r Jerry
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:05 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
Jerry, 
 
When you say the rate was based on official student count, did that provide access only to students? Or was the agreement cost based on student count and inclusive of Staff/Faculty use?
 
- Evan
 
 
 
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide theLynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com
 
Evan,
 
Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell fromLynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.
 
Bill
 

<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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We just entered into a site agreement as well, and are in the process of implementing it and marketing it to the campus.  First reaction has been extremely favorable, however I also want to reserve judgment until we’ve been through a year or so. 

 

Ricky Roberts

 

Director of Technical Support

Northern Arizona University

(928) 523-6950

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:33 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Good morning all, 

 

I wanted to give an update to this thread, and am curious how things have been going for others as well. Over the last few months we've been able to reach what I feel is a very fair agreement with Lynda.com, and will be moving forward with the LyndaCampus agreement this summer. We've always been excited by the service offering here, but as many of you know justifying the cost can be challenging. My hope is that we'll use the next 12 months to get better usage statistics and gauge the success of the purchase. 

 

Evan Levine
Assistant Director, Academic Services
Duke University Office of Information Technology
elevine@duke.edu
919-599-5644

 

 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Evan Levine wrote:



The plot thickens... 

 

Anyone else have their pricing based on student count? When we first started looking at lyndaCampus we were told by our rep that the cost was based on student count but included the whole university. When we went to purchase the agreement earlier this year, we were told that was not true, and had to update our count to more than double what it had initially been and include all students, staff, and faculty. That's what made the price way out of the reasonable range. 

 

I wonder if some of us are paying a fair amount based on student size and others are paying for all FTE?

 

- Evan

 

 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Gerald Lynn Allen wrote:



Evan, the count was based on the student count but it was also inclusive for the staff and Faculty.  One price for a three year period and they gave us an “early adopter” discount for year one (pretty deep cut really) to get us to drink the kool-aid.  v/r Jerry

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:05 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Jerry, 

 

When you say the rate was based on official student count, did that provide access only to students? Or was the agreement cost based on student count and inclusive of Staff/Faculty use?

 

- Evan

 

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide theLynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Evan,

 

Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell fromLynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.

 

Bill

 

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Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Ditto for us at Maryville University in St. Louis. We are very interested in using it with our faculty and staff and think that students will react quite favorably to it.

 

 

Julie Bergfeld

Director, Learning Design and Technology

Inspire. Enable. Improve

Maryville University
http://blogs.maryville.edu/learn

314-529-9620

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ricky L Roberts
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:19 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

We just entered into a site agreement as well, and are in the process of implementing it and marketing it to the campus.  First reaction has been extremely favorable, however I also want to reserve judgment until we’ve been through a year or so. 

 

Ricky Roberts

 

Director of Technical Support

Northern Arizona University

(928) 523-6950

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:33 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Good morning all, 

 

I wanted to give an update to this thread, and am curious how things have been going for others as well. Over the last few months we've been able to reach what I feel is a very fair agreement with Lynda.com, and will be moving forward with the LyndaCampus agreement this summer. We've always been excited by the service offering here, but as many of you know justifying the cost can be challenging. My hope is that we'll use the next 12 months to get better usage statistics and gauge the success of the purchase. 

 

Evan Levine
Assistant Director, Academic Services
Duke University Office of Information Technology
elevine@duke.edu
919-599-5644

 

 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Evan Levine wrote:

 

The plot thickens... 

 

Anyone else have their pricing based on student count? When we first started looking at lyndaCampus we were told by our rep that the cost was based on student count but included the whole university. When we went to purchase the agreement earlier this year, we were told that was not true, and had to update our count to more than double what it had initially been and include all students, staff, and faculty. That's what made the price way out of the reasonable range. 

 

I wonder if some of us are paying a fair amount based on student size and others are paying for all FTE?

 

- Evan

 

 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Gerald Lynn Allen wrote:

 

Evan, the count was based on the student count but it was also inclusive for the staff and Faculty.  One price for a three year period and they gave us an “early adopter” discount for year one (pretty deep cut really) to get us to drink the kool-aid.  v/r Jerry

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Levine
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:05 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Jerry, 

 

When you say the rate was based on official student count, did that provide access only to students? Or was the agreement cost based on student count and inclusive of Staff/Faculty use?

 

- Evan

 

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerald Lynn Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

We drank the kool-aid.  The University System of Georgia signed a contract to provide theLynda.com service to all Universities at a reduced rate based on official student count.  We have been using it for about 6 months now and have seen some usage but not the high usage we had hoped.  We have decided to renew (it was a three-year deal with the Board of Regents) and probably will for the next 2 years.  Not sure what will happen after that.  v/r Jerry Allen, Applications Manager, Georgia State University.

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv[mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Lynda.com

 

Evan,

 

Although they have marketed the campus license to us, it was not economically feasible for us at the time.  We rejected the idea and renewed our 75 licenses, believing, as you, that a campus license wouldn't have a high adoption rate.  There wasn't a hard sell fromLynda.com for the campus license, but the story may change in July when we renew.

 

Bill

 

<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM, CSM
Software Licensing Manager
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-513-3504
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>

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