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Penn State is exploring potential Matlab Student volume licensing options with Mathworks.  In the past, we have offered the boxed Student version (Matlab + Simulink) only.  We currently have a Total Academic Headcount (TAH) license agreement with Mathworks for faculty & staff use, but nothing for student personal use at the present time (other than lab/classroom use).  

I am reaching out to this group to see what model other universities are using to offer Matlab to their students.  Thank you in advance for your feedback.


Toni Baylets
Sr. License Administrator/Contract Coordinator
Information Technology Services
147D University Support Building I
Penn State University
(814) 863-9987

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Good Morning Toni,

I wanted to chime in here.  I setup the TAH licensing here at NPS and we are running the student option.  The out of box licensing for the student options come with 18 toolboxes.  In order to satisfy all fields of study here, 38 additional toolboxes were added to the license (totaling 56 toolboxes).  We have found that addition of the student option to be extremely beneficial, especially for the cost (and ease of management).  To add the student option along with all of the additional toolboxes, there was an added $9,930 to our fees.  Over the course of 2 years we have had about 1150 students sign up and download our full suite of products.  

If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me.
-- 
Ryan Berenji
Naval Post-Graduate School
ITACS — Academic Software License Manager
(831) 656-3714

From: TONI BAYLETS <tab@PSU.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv <LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM
To: "LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [LICENSING] Matlab Student Licensing options?

Penn State is exploring potential Matlab Student volume licensing options with Mathworks.  In the past, we have offered the boxed Student version (Matlab + Simulink) only.  We currently have a Total Academic Headcount (TAH) license agreement with Mathworks for faculty & staff use, but nothing for student personal use at the present time (other than lab/classroom use).  

I am reaching out to this group to see what model other universities are using to offer Matlab to their students.  Thank you in advance for your feedback.


Toni Baylets
Sr. License Administrator/Contract Coordinator
Information Technology Services
147D University Support Building I
Penn State University
(814) 863-9987

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Hi Toni,

The University of Notre Dame primarily acquired the MATLAB TAH license in 2008 in order to offer the student option.  The College of Engineering wanted their students to be able to install all the software any of their faculty used on their students' personally-owned computers.  That request was too broad to be fulfilled, but providing MATLAB for students made the faculty deliriously happy and 4,800 students have acquired the software since 2008.  The Dean of the College of Engineering said it transformed how faculty were able to teach after the students had access to the software on their own computers. 

MathWorks provides a fairly comprehensive spreadsheet which must be filled-in with IPEDS data for faculty, staff, and students (full-time and part-time) in technical study areas.  I don't know exactly how MathWorks turns that information into a TAH price quote, but each school's experience may differ based on the percentage and/or quantity of faculty, staff, and students in those areas.

For Notre Dame, including the student option in the standard program configuration (16 components for 2013-2014) cost an additional 34% this year.  Including the student option for an additional 37 components cost an additional 50% this year.

If you have any questions, you can contact me (mtoll@nd.edu or 574-631-5557).

         Thanks,  Mary


At 02:28 PM 10/30/2013, Berenji, Ryan (CIV) wrote:
Good Morning Toni,

I wanted to chime in here.  I setup the TAH licensing here at NPS and we are running the student option.  The out of box licensing for the student options come with 18 toolboxes.  In order to satisfy all fields of study here, 38 additional toolboxes were added to the license (totaling 56 toolboxes).  We have found that addition of the student option to be extremely beneficial, especially for the cost (and ease of management).  To add the student option along with all of the additional toolboxes, there was an added $9,930 to our fees.  Over the course of 2 years we have had about 1150 students sign up and download our full suite of products. 

If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me.
--
Ryan Berenji
Naval Post-Graduate School
ITACS — Academic Software License Manager
rkberenj@nps.edu
(831) 656-3714

From: TONI BAYLETS <tab@PSU.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv < LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM
To: " LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" < LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [LICENSING] Matlab Student Licensing options?

Penn State is exploring potential Matlab Student volume licensing options with Mathworks.  In the past, we have offered the boxed Student version (Matlab + Simulink) only.  We currently have a Total Academic Headcount (TAH) license agreement with Mathworks for faculty & staff use, but nothing for student personal use at the present time (other than lab/classroom use). 

I am reaching out to this group to see what model other universities are using to offer Matlab to their students.  Thank you in advance for your feedback.


Toni Baylets
Sr. License Administrator/Contract Coordinator
Information Technology Services
147D University Support Building I
Penn State University
(814) 863-9987

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Message from mike.ferdinando@cornell.edu

Hi, Toni.

 

After running a TAH license for staff and faculty only for years, Cornell University signed on to the MATLAB student volume TAH license this year. This license includes 18 standard toolboxes.  It seems to be working out very well!  This license is not centrally funded, so we currently cost-recover from students. We don't allow students to activate automatically or download from the vendor. We maintain our own copy of the installers on local download servers, and just send the activation key to each individual student after payment of the license fee.  The per-user cost is significantly less than the academic box copy, although a student's total spend for four years would be a bit higher.  (We are hoping that broader adoption across campus will let us lower the per-user "licensing fee".)

 

One minor wrinkle: One professor who uses MATLAB for instruction objected in principle to the annual license fee model. This professor instructed his or her students to purchase the student box version of MATLAB & SimuLink, rather than the TAH license version.  We're not sure how many students heeded this advice, but it was not enough to break our business model.

 

Let me know off-list if you're interested in technical details of our setup.

 

Mike Ferdinando

CIT Support Services

Service Manager – CU Software

Cornell Information Technologies

Suite 220 CCC Bldg, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853

607-254-8743  |  mike.ferdinando@cornell.edu

 

 

 

 

At Colorado School of Mines we evaluated TAH but because virtually every one of our faculty and students are STEM, the cost was prohibitive. Just last month we converted the various standalone and concurrent licenses that we had for Academic Research and converted them to a single concurrent license, plus adding a couple hundred more seats. This creates an ersatz site license for faculty and researchers. For students, we have Matlab classroom licenses in all of the labs and the next step in our plan is to create a virtual server that students can log into remotely to use Matlab. They are not currently able to remote to Windows lab machines but we also have Matlab on a Linux server that they can access remotely. To date they have to be physically in a lab or on the Linux server (or purchase a student copy) to use it. We direct students to the Mathworks site for the student version, but for some reason they are averse to buying it. They will buy a $200 textbook, but not a $100 software product. Go figure.

 

Ed Zucker

 

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