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When we went through this it drove us crazy as there was a certain lack of...certainty, among some of the people we talked to.

We are also doing a combination of virtual packaging, moving toward primarily XenApp, although we also use AppV.  We have begun to deliver some applications to our campus labs virtually, but only faculty and staff can access a virtual desktop remotely.

We don't cover our students for the desktop apps (beyond the labs, covered in the CA), except for particpants in our laptop program, for whom we signed an addendum to our CA.  But they are not covered for remote access to a virtual desktop.

We have Core CALs for both faculty and students, and an additional CAL for the student laptop program participants.

This is what we purchased last year for virtual and remote access (from my spreadsheet I keep):

  • Microsoft Windows Remote Desktop Services - External Connector License & Software Assurance - unlimited external users - EDU - Enterprise, Select, Select Plus - Win - All Languages  (6 licenses - server)
  • Microsoft Windows Remote Desktop Services - License & Software Assurance - 1 DEVICE cal - EDU - Enterprise, Select, Select Plus - Win - All Languages  (2,626 licenses to cover faculty/staff adjusted FTE)
The main thing I would say is talk at length with both your vendor reps and the MS reps.  They were all very helpful as we navigated all this.

jkt




Janice K. Tulloss, PhD, ASM
Software Licensing Coordinator
ITS - Client Services
202 Forney Bldg.
UNC Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27412

336-542-2805 (Google Voice)



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I’d love to see what you get back!

 

I don’t suppose someone like Gartner might have that kind of list already??

____________________________________________________

Margaret H. Knox                  mknox@utsystem.edu

 

Chief Information Officer (CIO)     (512)322-3774   

The University of Texas System

CTJ 2.218 78701

      

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Janice Tulloss
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:23 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft licensing & XenApp

 

At the prodding of our Systems group, we have developed a questionaire about the different types of virtualization architecture and their licensing.  They want this sent to all of our vendors.  While I'm happy to accommodate the effort (as this will fall to me to implement), having worked with so many vendors I'm a bit less sanguine about the alacrity with which people will respond.

I often find that some people will just say no if they get presented with too much technical information, and many smaller publishers have no idea what I'm talking about.  Others just don't respond.

If people are interested in seeing what we're developing, let me know and I'll share it with you or with the list.  I'm happy to exchange ideas on how to develop a coherent approach to working with our vendors.

jkt


Janice K. Tulloss, PhD, ASM

Software Licensing Coordinator
ITS - Client Services
202 Forney Bldg.
UNC Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27412

336-542-2805 (Google Voice)

 

Janice,

 

I would be interested in the work you are developing!

 

Regards,

 


Jeff Smith
Manager, Computing Experience Services

-       IT Procurement Services

-       Telecom Services

-       Desktop Management Services

-       Hardware Support & Repair Services

University of New Brunswick

PO BOX 4400

Fredericton, NB E3B 5A3

Web: www.unb.ca

 

Phone: (506) 452 6282

Cell: (506) 471-4443
Fax: (506) 453-3590
Help Desk: 453-5199
Email: jeff.smith@unb.ca

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Janice Tulloss
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:23 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft licensing & XenApp

 

At the prodding of our Systems group, we have developed a questionaire about the different types of virtualization architecture and their licensing.  They want this sent to all of our vendors.  While I'm happy to accommodate the effort (as this will fall to me to implement), having worked with so many vendors I'm a bit less sanguine about the alacrity with which people will respond.

I often find that some people will just say no if they get presented with too much technical information, and many smaller publishers have no idea what I'm talking about.  Others just don't respond.

If people are interested in seeing what we're developing, let me know and I'll share it with you or with the list.  I'm happy to exchange ideas on how to develop a coherent approach to working with our vendors.

jkt


Janice K. Tulloss, PhD, ASM

Software Licensing Coordinator
ITS - Client Services
202 Forney Bldg.
UNC Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27412

336-542-2805 (Google Voice)

 

We’d be interested too, Janice.

 

And thanks, the rest of you, for your contributions.  We’ll try to digest it all and turn some kind of synopsis back to the group.

 

Have a great holiday weekend.

 

Chris

 

Chris Sinnett, Manager

Community Network

IS Technology Support Services

Oregon State University

(541) 737-9156

 

http://oregonstate.edu/is/tss

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Smith
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:31 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft licensing & XenApp

 

Janice,

 

I would be interested in the work you are developing!

 

Regards,

 


Jeff Smith
Manager, Computing Experience Services

-       IT Procurement Services

-       Telecom Services

-       Desktop Management Services

-       Hardware Support & Repair Services

University of New Brunswick

PO BOX 4400

Fredericton, NB E3B 5A3

Web: www.unb.ca

 

Phone: (506) 452 6282

Cell: (506) 471-4443
Fax: (506) 453-3590
Help Desk: 453-5199
Email: jeff.smith@unb.ca

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Janice Tulloss
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:23 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft licensing & XenApp

 

At the prodding of our Systems group, we have developed a questionaire about the different types of virtualization architecture and their licensing.  They want this sent to all of our vendors.  While I'm happy to accommodate the effort (as this will fall to me to implement), having worked with so many vendors I'm a bit less sanguine about the alacrity with which people will respond.

I often find that some people will just say no if they get presented with too much technical information, and many smaller publishers have no idea what I'm talking about.  Others just don't respond.

If people are interested in seeing what we're developing, let me know and I'll share it with you or with the list.  I'm happy to exchange ideas on how to develop a coherent approach to working with our vendors.

jkt


Janice K. Tulloss, PhD, ASM

Software Licensing Coordinator
ITS - Client Services
202 Forney Bldg.
UNC Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27412

336-542-2805 (Google Voice)

 




Hi Janice, We would also be interested. Andre Yancey Software Asset Manager IS Technology Department Anne Arundel Community College Arnold, MD (410) 777-2416 Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2013, at 1:51 PM, "Sinnett, Chris" > wrote: We’d be interested too, Janice. And thanks, the rest of you, for your contributions. We’ll try to digest it all and turn some kind of synopsis back to the group. Have a great holiday weekend. Chris Chris Sinnett, Manager Community Network IS Technology Support Services Oregon State University (541) 737-9156 http://oregonstate.edu/is/tss The information contained in this email may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It has been sent for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its content, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Smith Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:31 AM To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft licensing & XenApp Janice, I would be interested in the work you are developing! Regards, Jeff Smith Manager, Computing Experience Services - IT Procurement Services - Telecom Services - Desktop Management Services - Hardware Support & Repair Services University of New Brunswick PO BOX 4400 Fredericton, NB E3B 5A3 Web: www.unb.ca Phone: (506) 452 6282 Cell: (506) 471-4443 Fax: (506) 453-3590 Help Desk: 453-5199 Email: jeff.smith@unb.ca From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Janice Tulloss Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:23 PM To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft licensing & XenApp At the prodding of our Systems group, we have developed a questionaire about the different types of virtualization architecture and their licensing. They want this sent to all of our vendors. While I'm happy to accommodate the effort (as this will fall to me to implement), having worked with so many vendors I'm a bit less sanguine about the alacrity with which people will respond. I often find that some people will just say no if they get presented with too much technical information, and many smaller publishers have no idea what I'm talking about. Others just don't respond. If people are interested in seeing what we're developing, let me know and I'll share it with you or with the list. I'm happy to exchange ideas on how to develop a coherent approach to working with our vendors. jkt Janice K. Tulloss, PhD, ASM Software Licensing Coordinator ITS - Client Services 202 Forney Bldg. UNC Greensboro Greensboro, NC 27412 336-542-2805 (Google Voice)
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