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Folks, this looks to be a significant announcement today from Microsoft for higher education. See student advantage section in the first URL , second URL focuses on that. I suspect there will be clarifying questions or transition questions at our meeting today, 5.30 PM in room 303b and that should fit nicely in the agenda spot under Microsoft item for any licensing changes. My quick analysis is that if you have licensing/support for all your faculty and staff for Office Pro, such as thru Office 365 or via Campus Agreement, then as of 1 December , your students are covered at no additional charge for Office Pro via Office 365. As I understand Office 365, the Office Pro is streaming download ( not software as a service like Exchange, SP or Lync) for up to 5 machines per person. Some issues I am thinking about today...now remember I may not have the details spot on so this is just what I am thinking about! - at UT we covered the students as well as faculty staff for Campus Agreement Office Pro. So how to transition over what period of time and even if we should transition - Now new program appears to have some significant Pros such as: no additional cost for having students given my faculty staff are licensed; up to 5 computers per student including PC, MAC and lighter version for IOS/Android/Win phone/tablet; download is actual streaming type download so student can start using faster than a pure download/install - but some issues to consider such as I think student will not have media nor access after leaving school; currently in CA they can have media and the license version at graduation continues post graduation; network issues; funding issues for my schools using media as one way to help fund the program; what is most efficient way to quickly stand up office 365 office pro for the students across our system or by school as some of our schools already have office 365 going for Exchange email for a portion of their population; what if some schools need more time or want the current program. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/oct13/10-15skillspr.aspx And... http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2013/10/15/mi... Hope to see you this afternoon! Regards, Marg Sent from my iPad Margaret (Marg) H. Knox The University of Texas System ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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My rep warned me about this anouncement just before I left. She said more details will follow, that they understand there will be considerations with CALs, etc. to consider as well. Ricky Roberts Director of Technical Support Northern Arizona University (928) 523-6950 c (928) 699-6429 ________________________________________
Ricky, I agree. In myna campus Agreement, Office Pro for students is a piece of the desktop SKU , so likely same issue for us Sent from my iPad Margaret (Marg) H. Knox The University of Texas System
Hello all,

Is the meeting today in room 303B of the convention center?

Thanks,
Geoff (Brown University)

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Knox, Marg wrote:
Folks, this looks to be a significant announcement today from Microsoft for higher education. See student advantage section in the first URL , second URL focuses on that.

I suspect there will be clarifying questions or transition questions at our meeting today, 5.30 PM in room 303b and that should fit nicely in the agenda spot under Microsoft item  for any licensing changes.

My quick analysis is that if you have licensing/support for all your faculty and staff for Office Pro, such as thru Office 365 or via Campus Agreement,  then as of 1 December , your students are covered at no additional charge for Office Pro via Office 365. As I understand Office 365, the Office Pro is streaming download ( not software as a service like Exchange, SP or Lync) for up to 5 machines per person.

Some issues I am thinking about today...now remember I may not have the details spot on so this is just what I am thinking about!
- at UT we covered the students as well as faculty staff for Campus Agreement Office Pro. So how to transition over what period of time and even if we should transition
- Now new program appears to have some significant Pros such as:  no additional cost for having students given my faculty staff are licensed; up to 5 computers per student including PC, MAC and lighter version for IOS/Android/Win phone/tablet; download is actual streaming type download so student can start using faster than a pure download/install
- but some issues to consider such as I think student will not have media nor access after leaving school; currently in CA they can have media and the license version at graduation continues post graduation; network issues; funding issues for my schools using media as one way to help fund the program; what is most efficient way to quickly stand up office 365 office pro for the students across our system or by school as some of our schools already have office 365 going for Exchange email for a portion of their population; what if some schools need more time or want the current program.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/oct13/10-15skillspr.aspx

And...

http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2013/10/15/microsoft-announces-new-student-advantage-program-to-prepare-students-for-tomorrow-s-jobs.aspx


Hope to see you this afternoon!

Regards, Marg

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Margaret (Marg) H. Knox
The University of Texas System
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Geoffrey Greene, Director
IT Support Services
Computing & Information Services
Brown University
email: Geoffrey_Greene@brown.edu
phone: (401) 863-7483
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At BSU we also have the student option under the "Education Desktop with Core CAL Suite" - my take away from a preliminary conversation with MS is we can't tell what the announcement will mean for us until we understand how the server CAL issue plays out. The Windows Server CAL and SharePoint Server Standard CAL are important for us. We may have to parse out what we need and buy it separately, or perhaps MS will modify the "Education Desktop with Core CAL Suite" option. Right now we are also using the Windows upgrade rights for students, but we could live without that if there are significant cost savings. Loren -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Knox, Marg Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:51 PM To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft Student Advantage announcement Ricky, I agree. In myna campus Agreement, Office Pro for students is a piece of the desktop SKU , so likely same issue for us Sent from my iPad Margaret (Marg) H. Knox The University of Texas System
Yes.

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Please excuse creative spelling errors and word substitutions 
sent from this mobile device.



The schools here in Ohio that have the student option all purchase the desktop bundle that Marg mentioned earlier. This includes Office, Windows and server CALs. One thing to consider if a school plans to switch over and use the new "free" Office Pro Plus 365 offer is the question of continuing the Windows and CAL pieces.  

Anyone doing delivery of virtual machines to students will want to take a close look at how the VDI licensing is wrapped up into the Windows licensing for students.  

- Verne Smith, Wright State University


Geoffrey , yes! 

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Margaret (Marg) H. Knox
The University of Texas System

Verne is dead on!

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Margaret (Marg) H. Knox
The University of Texas System

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