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Message from mknox@austin.utexas.edu

TO: Enoch and Kelly,

CC: Licensing Group

 

I am hearing some talk of an upcoming substantial change to Student Select by Microsoft  wrt Office and Windows. While UT is not a Student Select shop, the talk I am hearing is significant, so I wanted to go to the source (Microsoft) and get official word, if any, of an expected change and what effect it may have on various institutions. And of course, I wanted to know if there is going to be any effect on Campus Agreement.

 

Now it could be a joke, since the date is suspicious (end of March, means 1 April 2012 change)…

 

So what I am hearing is that Office 2010 Pro Plus will end as an offering for Student Select at end of March 2012. Same for Win 7 Upgrade for Student Select. What happens after this was totally confusing to me. Something about an AFP packaging called Office University (Mac and Win) but I did not hear anything about Windows for Student Select. If this were just a name change, I doubt talk would have started…

 

If someone has more concrete information to offer to the conversation please provide. But I am totally confused. Clarity appreciated!

 

Thanks, Marg

 

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Margaret H. Knox                  mknox@utsystem.edu

 

Chief Information Officer (CIO)     (512)322-3774   

The University of Texas System

CTJ 2.218 78701

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At UT Austin: Director, ITS

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Did anyone ever hear back on this?

 

Message from mknox@austin.utexas.edu

I just sent a reminder to Licensing, but one of my contacts is out this week!

 

If anyone knows something on this, feel free to speak up!

 

____________________________________________________

Margaret H. Knox                  mknox@utsystem.edu

 

Chief Information Officer (CIO)     (512)322-3774   

The University of Texas System

CTJ 2.218 78701

--

At UT Austin: Director, ITS

FAC 248I 78712

      

 


I don't have any official word, but I believe there were some rumors on the news sites in the last month or so that with Windows 8 and the next major release of Office, Microsoft would be moving to an all digital download model, similar to what Apple has done with the Apps store.  This would mean no boxed copy or media set distribution.

Managing the student/employee home use software store at my own university has gotten me to thinking about this issue.  We used to do a healthy business in Apple software, but now all that's moved to the Apps Store, plus more and more things are moving to the cloud.  As Microsoft rolls out Office365, many students may find they don't need traditional Office on a desktop or laptop, they'll be able to do all their basic stuff on the web.  Virtualization is also playing a roll at many schools. 

So I'm not sure how much longer schools will need to be in the traditional student software sales and distribution business.  In 3-5 years it could all be gone.  It's tough because schools can generate income from personal software sales, but that's the way technology is evolving.

My biggest concern is that this could turn into a double-whammy - loss of revenue from student sales and increased costs to virtualize and acquire cloud services to provide essential software tools like Office, Adobe, stats packages, etc, in more tablet and web-friendly forms.

So, to borrow a phrase from Pinky and the Brain... are you pondering what I'm pondering?

- Verne



Message from mknox@austin.utexas.edu

Well stated Verne. And yes, thinking about it. In some cases I am aware of, there could be the not insignificant financial change you mention. Loss of income, increase in costs moving to VCL

Some improved services for students such as access to some but not all specialized software and even the buying. Less opp. To explain while they are in line.

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This may seem like a naïve question, but for purpose of clarification I’ll ask it.  What are the characteristics of a “specialized” app?  I tend to consider specialized apps to be those which tend toward having one or more of three characteristics:

 

(1)    Access to the app is required by a smaller percentage of our total user population (i.e. – less ubiquitous)

(2)    Upfront and/or yearly licensing costs are high

(3)    App requires more resource (usually CPU or bandwidth) that is available on run-of-the-mill client devices

 

All of these tend to drive the cost per year per user up.  With cheap, ubiquitous, lightweight apps being those which fit into the app store model best, our VCL efforts may very well end up having to pull the weight of the rest.  That said, however, it will be kind of nice to think that administration of a VCL environment, while expensive on a cost per year per user basis, will be less and less “clogged up” with the demands of administration of a large set of lightweight ubiquitous apps.

 

Overall, the app store model may end up putting a dent into financials, but it seems to be something that the VCL admins could smile about.

 

- Rick

 

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From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Knox, Marg
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:24 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] Microsoft Student Select rumors

 

Well stated Verne. And yes, thinking about it. In some cases I am aware of, there could be the not insignificant financial change you mention. Loss of income, increase in costs moving to VCL

 

Some improved services for students such as access to some but not all specialized software and even the buying. Less opp. To explain while they are in line.

Sent from my iPad


Well Marg, your 'hearing' was apparently right. We got word via our Microsoft rep this morning that availability of Office and Windows update via student select was going away (April 1, 2012). Quoting, "Microsoft is still evaluating the remaining products". The replacements suggested are either student option on campus agreement or a new Office University. I'm somewhat confused over this new one as it indicates that it is for download at an estimated $99 retail, but that you contact your reseller for ordering (unlike Microsoft Steal which was a direct MS -Student relationship, right?) Thus I'm not sure of how a campus software office or store might have a role. This change will impact Illinois State greatly as our methodology of getting licenses for students was largely built around select. Both in choice of Office as a productivity suite but also with our campaigns to keep students legal. Verne's point about moving to cloud based services also is very relevant. But many questions here before judgements I guess. I'm running around today so hopefully others can find and post other details. dg At 03:32 PM 11/28/2011, you wrote: >TO: Enoch and Kelly, >CC: Licensing Group > >I am hearing some talk of an upcoming substantial change to Student >Select by Microsoft wrt Office and Windows. While UT is not a >Student Select shop, the talk I am hearing is significant, so I >wanted to go to the source (Microsoft) and get official word, if >any, of an expected change and what effect it may have on various >institutions. And of course, I wanted to know if there is going to >be any effect on Campus Agreement. > == David Greenfield, Dir of Student Technology/TechZone dgreen@ilstu.edu Illinois State University IT - Always Connected 309/438-8334 Normal, IL 61790-6360 fax 309/438-8413 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Message from mknox@austin.utexas.edu

Thanks David. Others may have clarifications to offer! ____________________________________________________ Margaret H. Knox mknox@utsystem.edu Chief Information Officer (CIO) (512)322-3774 The University of Texas System CTJ 2.218 78701 -- At UT Austin: Director, ITS FAC 248I 78712
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