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Is anyone out there working with VMware on enterprise licensing?  We have a limited ELA and have been trying to understand their pricing and they don’t seem to have a standard academic price list.  Has anyone been able to obtain such a thing?  If yes I would love to see it!

 

Other thoughts on working with VMware as a vendor?

 

Feel free to call, email directly, or respond to the forum.

 

Thanks in advance for any insights!

 

Best,

Ann

 

 

 

Ann Brainard-Dougan

ann.brainard-dougan@yale.edu

Software Administrator

Yale University Vendor Management

150 Munson Street, 4th Floor

New Haven, CT  06511

(US Mail:  P.O. Box 208207

New Haven,  CT 06520-8207)

Phone:  203-737-6021

Cell:  203-687-9695

 

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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Ann,

NC State University is about to wrap up a VMWare ELA purchase and it has been a bit confusing.  We're purchasing the token model which allows us to purchase tokens up front and cash them in for products and services.  It also allows us to wrap in our current support.  The problem is that each product/service has a token value, but the token costs are determined by the level of buy-in when you enter the ELA.  This makes it very difficult to know what the costs per product are until you determine how many tokens you want to purchase.  For this reason, there isn't a standard academic price list that I've seen (at least for the token model).  It's the discount applied to MSRP based on the level of token purchase.

So far our rep from VMWare has been very helpful and has been able to answer any of our questions.

Bill  

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Bill Coker,  ASM
Manager, Software Licensing
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-515-3694
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
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Hi Richard,

 

I think you sent this to the wrong Ann.

 

Regards

 

Ann

 

 

 

Ann Thomson

Manager IT Procurement

IT Strategy, Policy and Planning

The University of Auckland

58 Symonds Street

Auckland

Ph: 09 923 2928

Mobile: 021 757 866

Email: ann.thomson@auckland.ac.nz

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Northam
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 9:49 a.m.
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Hi Ann

 

In Australia most universities access a bundle of VMware technology using an “all you can eat” model with the licensing costs based on a dollar amount per FTE.

 

It’s a very simple model, easy to understand and has the advantage of not having to worry about tracking usage; you choose to deploy as little or as much as you like.  Depending on whether this model is the right one for your environment, it might be worth raising it with your VMware rep.  VMware refer to it as an Academic Term Licence Agreement (ATLA) and it is based on the standard VMware EULA.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

Richard Northam | CEO – CAUDIT  www.caudit.edu.au | Public Officer – AAF  www.aaf.edu.au

ph: +61 2 6222 3521 | mb: +61 417 044 625 | richard.northam@caudit.edu.au

Building 9, Banks Street | Yarralumla  ACT  2600 | AUSTRALIA

Mail: PO Box 9432 | Deakin  ACT  2600 | AUSTRALIA

Connect with CAUDIT at:

    

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brainard-Dougan, Ann
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 7:26 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Thanks Bill.  Wow, the token model must make it even more confusing!

 

Appreciate the information.

 

Best,

Ann

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:16 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Ann,

 

NC State University is about to wrap up a VMWare ELA purchase and it has been a bit confusing.  We're purchasing the token model which allows us to purchase tokens up front and cash them in for products and services.  It also allows us to wrap in our current support.  The problem is that each product/service has a token value, but the token costs are determined by the level of buy-in when you enter the ELA.  This makes it very difficult to know what the costs per product are until you determine how many tokens you want to purchase.  For this reason, there isn't a standard academic price list that I've seen (at least for the token model).  It's the discount applied to MSRP based on the level of token purchase.

 

So far our rep from VMWare has been very helpful and has been able to answer any of our questions.

 

Bill  


<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM
Manager, Software Licensing
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-515-3694
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>

 

Message from ann.brainard-dougan@yale.edu

Is anyone out there working with VMware on enterprise licensing?  We have a limited ELA and have been trying to understand their pricing and they don’t seem to have a standard academic price list.  Has anyone been able to obtain such a thing?  If yes I would love to see it!

 

Other thoughts on working with VMware as a vendor?

 

Feel free to call, email directly, or respond to the forum.

 

Thanks in advance for any insights!

 

Best,

Ann

 

 

 

Ann Brainard-Dougan

ann.brainard-dougan@yale.edu

Software Administrator

Yale University Vendor Management

150 Munson Street, 4th Floor

New Haven, CT  06511

(US Mail:  P.O. Box 208207

New Haven,  CT 06520-8207)

Phone:  203-737-6021

Cell:  203-687-9695

 

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

 

Ann, I will connect you up with a colleague of mine who worked thru our ELA for the UT System. It has been a year plus so things may have changed.

____________________________________________________

Margaret H. Knox                  mknox@utsystem.edu

 

Chief Information Officer (CIO)     (512)322-3774   

The University of Texas System

CTJ 2.218 78701

      

 

Ann,

NC State University is about to wrap up a VMWare ELA purchase and it has been a bit confusing.  We're purchasing the token model which allows us to purchase tokens up front and cash them in for products and services.  It also allows us to wrap in our current support.  The problem is that each product/service has a token value, but the token costs are determined by the level of buy-in when you enter the ELA.  This makes it very difficult to know what the costs per product are until you determine how many tokens you want to purchase.  For this reason, there isn't a standard academic price list that I've seen (at least for the token model).  It's the discount applied to MSRP based on the level of token purchase.

So far our rep from VMWare has been very helpful and has been able to answer any of our questions.

Bill  

<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM
Manager, Software Licensing
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-515-3694
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>


Message from ann.brainard-dougan@yale.edu

Thanks Bill.  Wow, the token model must make it even more confusing!

 

Appreciate the information.

 

Best,

Ann

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:16 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Ann,

 

NC State University is about to wrap up a VMWare ELA purchase and it has been a bit confusing.  We're purchasing the token model which allows us to purchase tokens up front and cash them in for products and services.  It also allows us to wrap in our current support.  The problem is that each product/service has a token value, but the token costs are determined by the level of buy-in when you enter the ELA.  This makes it very difficult to know what the costs per product are until you determine how many tokens you want to purchase.  For this reason, there isn't a standard academic price list that I've seen (at least for the token model).  It's the discount applied to MSRP based on the level of token purchase.

 

So far our rep from VMWare has been very helpful and has been able to answer any of our questions.

 

Bill  


<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM
Manager, Software Licensing
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-515-3694
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>

 

Hi Ann

 

In Australia most universities access a bundle of VMware technology using an “all you can eat” model with the licensing costs based on a dollar amount per FTE.

 

It’s a very simple model, easy to understand and has the advantage of not having to worry about tracking usage; you choose to deploy as little or as much as you like.  Depending on whether this model is the right one for your environment, it might be worth raising it with your VMware rep.  VMware refer to it as an Academic Term Licence Agreement (ATLA) and it is based on the standard VMware EULA.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

Richard Northam | CEO – CAUDIT  www.caudit.edu.au | Public Officer – AAF  www.aaf.edu.au

ph: +61 2 6222 3521 | mb: +61 417 044 625 | richard.northam@caudit.edu.au

Building 9, Banks Street | Yarralumla  ACT  2600 | AUSTRALIA

Mail: PO Box 9432 | Deakin  ACT  2600 | AUSTRALIA

Connect with CAUDIT at:

    

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brainard-Dougan, Ann
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 7:26 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Thanks Bill.  Wow, the token model must make it even more confusing!

 

Appreciate the information.

 

Best,

Ann

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:16 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Ann,

 

NC State University is about to wrap up a VMWare ELA purchase and it has been a bit confusing.  We're purchasing the token model which allows us to purchase tokens up front and cash them in for products and services.  It also allows us to wrap in our current support.  The problem is that each product/service has a token value, but the token costs are determined by the level of buy-in when you enter the ELA.  This makes it very difficult to know what the costs per product are until you determine how many tokens you want to purchase.  For this reason, there isn't a standard academic price list that I've seen (at least for the token model).  It's the discount applied to MSRP based on the level of token purchase.

 

So far our rep from VMWare has been very helpful and has been able to answer any of our questions.

 

Bill  


<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM
Manager, Software Licensing
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-515-3694
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>

 

Hi Richard,

 

I think you sent this to the wrong Ann.

 

Regards

 

Ann

 

 

 

Ann Thomson

Manager IT Procurement

IT Strategy, Policy and Planning

The University of Auckland

58 Symonds Street

Auckland

Ph: 09 923 2928

Mobile: 021 757 866

Email: ann.thomson@auckland.ac.nz

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Northam
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 9:49 a.m.
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Hi Ann

 

In Australia most universities access a bundle of VMware technology using an “all you can eat” model with the licensing costs based on a dollar amount per FTE.

 

It’s a very simple model, easy to understand and has the advantage of not having to worry about tracking usage; you choose to deploy as little or as much as you like.  Depending on whether this model is the right one for your environment, it might be worth raising it with your VMware rep.  VMware refer to it as an Academic Term Licence Agreement (ATLA) and it is based on the standard VMware EULA.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

Richard Northam | CEO – CAUDIT  www.caudit.edu.au | Public Officer – AAF  www.aaf.edu.au

ph: +61 2 6222 3521 | mb: +61 417 044 625 | richard.northam@caudit.edu.au

Building 9, Banks Street | Yarralumla  ACT  2600 | AUSTRALIA

Mail: PO Box 9432 | Deakin  ACT  2600 | AUSTRALIA

Connect with CAUDIT at:

    

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brainard-Dougan, Ann
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 7:26 AM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Thanks Bill.  Wow, the token model must make it even more confusing!

 

Appreciate the information.

 

Best,

Ann

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Software Licensing Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Coker
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:16 PM
To: LICENSING@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [LICENSING] VMware ELA

 

Ann,

 

NC State University is about to wrap up a VMWare ELA purchase and it has been a bit confusing.  We're purchasing the token model which allows us to purchase tokens up front and cash them in for products and services.  It also allows us to wrap in our current support.  The problem is that each product/service has a token value, but the token costs are determined by the level of buy-in when you enter the ELA.  This makes it very difficult to know what the costs per product are until you determine how many tokens you want to purchase.  For this reason, there isn't a standard academic price list that I've seen (at least for the token model).  It's the discount applied to MSRP based on the level of token purchase.

 

So far our rep from VMWare has been very helpful and has been able to answer any of our questions.

 

Bill  


<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>
Bill Coker,  ASM
Manager, Software Licensing
Office of Information Technology
North Carolina State University
Phone:  919-515-5419
Fax: 919-515-3694
email:  bill_coker@ncsu.edu
<<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>>