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We are currently getting ready to renew our university virus protection agreement and after reviewing our numbers we began asking ourselves if the cost to provide virus protection to our students is worth the money we pay vs. telling the students that they would need to provide their own.  These days you would like to hope that no system would be running without some sort of protection thus students shouldn’t be waiting to get into a college to have virus protection on their computer.  I know this is just another way to pass the burden on to the student and we have always provided virus protection to ours in the past but given budget cuts these days this is just another area that we have to look at and wonder how many are actually using what we are providing to them.  The savings on this could certainly be used more efficiently for other resources to the students if we think that not enough are using the virus protection we are paying for and providing.  Unfortunately I don’t believe we can get a true number of how many of our students are running our virus protection.  We have some idea based on this hits to our portal for the download but we can only assume that they are all actually pulling it down and installing like they should.

 

So my question to the group is do you offer licensed virus protection to your students vs. asking them to provide their own?

 

We appreciate any feedback.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Daniel Donner

Assistant Director for Information Technology

Director of User Services

St. Bonaventure University

DDonner@sbu.edu

(716)  375 - 2296

 

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Daniel,

Macalester provides Symantec virus protection for personally-owned computers, including those owned by students, faculty and staff.  This is in addition to covering College-owned computers.  Our network registration system (Bradford) requires virus protection in order to register, but will allow any up-to-date anti-virus tool.  The cost to provide it seems small compared to the potential problems it helps avoid, and we feel that giving out such a tool without chargebacks is the right complement to requiring some kind of virus protection.  (That said, we're increasingly unhappy with our current tool and are examining alternatives.)

Cordially,
David
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David W. Sisk    Associate Director for Administration, Information Technology Services
Macalester College    /    1600 Grand Avenue    /     Saint Paul, Minnesota  55105-1899
http://www.macalester.edu/~sisk/                Voice (651) 696-6745,  FAX (651) 696-6778


We stopped providing Symantec AV to our students this year, and are instead encouraging them to use the free consumer version of Microsoft Security Essentials.  We don't monitor or keep track of how many actually use it or anything else, but use Cisco Clean Access to enforce patch polices on our network.

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Lowell

Lowell Larson
Director of Technical Services
The College of St. Scholastica


At Hartwick College, we provide anti-virus/firewall client software to new incoming students. We install it with them during opening weekend computer sessions and it is password protected so they can't remove it.    That being said we are also reconsidering our strategy so I will be interested in seeing other responses.

Suzanne Gaynor | Director - Technology Resource Center | 607.431.4670 |  gaynors@hartwick.edu
Hartwick College | PO Box 4020 | Oneonta, NY 13820 | http://www.hartwick.edu





Message from ngoldberg@fsmail.bradley.edu

At Bradley we provide Symantec EndPoint for our faculty, staff and students to download.  We are exploring alternatives to providing this to students as a cost saving measure.   Our contract with them runs for another year so we are seeking alternatives to meet our university owned systems, while being able to recommend a reliable application for our students usage.

Microsoft Security Essentials and AVG are two that seem to perform on a level with Symantec and they are free for personally owned systems.  Both of these provide updates to their definitions with the AVG version offering an option to purchase updates to the application itself.  I believe MS Security Essentials is totally free but this may change in the future - that is the great unknown. At our Technology Helpdesk when students bring their systems in they generally already have an anti-virus program on it.  The issue is that generally the application is no longer performing updates to the definition file.  Generally when a new system is purchased a program may be included but it has a limited update life (usually three months) users don't always look at this and forget that it needs to be renewed etc.  

Nancy Goldberg
Director Customer Support Services
Bradley University
1501 W. Bradley Avenue
Cullom-Davis Library 135A
Peoria, IL 61625
 



Message from jack@mail.rockefeller.edu

We provide a free copy of Symantec EndPoint Protection to our users, including for home use (as long as the computer connects to our network in some fashion – VPN, email).   They don’t have to use our SEP and can install any AV of their choosing.  Our policy states that all computers connecting to our network must have an anti-virus software installed and it must be up to date, including an up to date OS.

 

-jack

 

We continue to provide Symantec AV free of charge to our faculty, staff, and students.

 

Wendy Woodward

Director, Technology Support Services

Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)

 

1800 Sherman Avenue, Suite 1-300

Evanston, IL  60201

(847) 467-7851

www.it.northwestern.edu

 

Daniel,

We had this exact same conversation in our staff meeting today.  We are looking at doing exactly what you are doing.    We are currently offering students Symantec (Endpoint) or allowing them the option to use whatever they currently have installed.   But, we would also like to save money and are looking at simply requiring students to obtain their own antivirus protection.   Our initial thoughts are to provide them with a list of free and commercial options.   We have not really defined our strategy yet, but I doubt we will be providing Symantec End point to students next year.

  Are you thinking about recommending options to your students or just leaving it up to them to figure it out?  

  Tim

 

UF provides McAfee for all our students, faculty, and staff.

 

 

Thanks,

-dpb-

 

This is a great question.

 

At Eastern Michigan University we are a mainly commuter campus with roughly 10-20% of our students living on campus.  For students that live on campus, we provide a free antivirus download (McAfee) for their personally owned computers. 

 

Several years ago, we used to provide antivirus to all faculty, staff, and student personally owned computers.  To cut costs we changed it to Resnet students only.  Our logic is that in addition to the great free products that others have mentioned, Internet service providers like Comcast provide antivirus free to their customers.  We expect, then, that the user’s home ISP more than likely will provide antivirus to cover our non-Resnet students, faculty and staff.

 

We use McAfee products on all of our university owned computers.  Good luck on your project!

 

Andrea Tanner

Director, Enterprise Support

Eastern Michigan University

 

Message from sande.johnson-byers@louisville.edu

At the University of Louisville, we provide virus protection for students on the Mac, but recommend MS Security Essentials (it's free) for PC users. 

 

Daniel.

Rider University has Symantec virus protection available for students to download if they need it.  For all faculty and staff computers Symantec is installed in the image.

Good luck with the project.

On 1/19/2012 1:50 PM, Donner, Daniel wrote:

We are currently getting ready to renew our university virus protection agreement and after reviewing our numbers we began asking ourselves if the cost to provide virus protection to our students is worth the money we pay vs. telling the students that they would need to provide their own.  These days you would like to hope that no system would be running without some sort of protection thus students shouldn’t be waiting to get into a college to have virus protection on their computer.  I know this is just another way to pass the burden on to the student and we have always provided virus protection to ours in the past but given budget cuts these days this is just another area that we have to look at and wonder how many are actually using what we are providing to them.  The savings on this could certainly be used more efficiently for other resources to the students if we think that not enough are using the virus protection we are paying for and providing.  Unfortunately I don’t believe we can get a true number of how many of our students are running our virus protection.  We have some idea based on this hits to our portal for the download but we can only assume that they are all actually pulling it down and installing like they should.

 

So my question to the group is do you offer licensed virus protection to your students vs. asking them to provide their own?

 

We appreciate any feedback.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Daniel Donner

Assistant Director for Information Technology

Director of User Services

St. Bonaventure University

DDonner@sbu.edu

(716)  375 - 2296

 

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We run SafeConnect and require students to have AV but we do not provide AV (never have).  There are enough free options that are recognized by SafeConnect to cover students.


-- Scott



Scott Krajewski             
Director, IT Services           
Augsburg College    
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>>> On 1/19/2012 at 12:50 PM, "Donner, Daniel" <ddonner@SBU.EDU> wrote:

We are currently getting ready to renew our university virus protection agreement and after reviewing our numbers we began asking ourselves if the cost to provide virus protection to our students is worth the money we pay vs. telling the students that they would need to provide their own.  These days you would like to hope that no system would be running without some sort of protection thus students shouldn’t be waiting to get into a college to have virus protection on their computer.  I know this is just another way to pass the burden on to the student and we have always provided virus protection to ours in the past but given budget cuts these days this is just another area that we have to look at and wonder how many are actually using what we are providing to them.  The savings on this could certainly be used more efficiently for other resources to the students if we think that not enough are using the virus protection we are paying for and providing.  Unfortunately I don’t believe we can get a true number of how many of our students are running our virus protection.  We have some idea based on this hits to our portal for the download but we can only assume that they are all actually pulling it down and installing like they should.

 

So my question to the group is do you offer licensed virus protection to your students vs. asking them to provide their own?

 

We appreciate any feedback.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Daniel Donner

Assistant Director for Information Technology

Director of User Services

St. Bonaventure University

DDonner@sbu.edu

(716)  375 - 2296

 

P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

 

 

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Tim,

 

We are just beginning discussions on this and after the numerous responses that we’ve received from others such as yourself we are leaning hard to remove our current offering to our students beginning this summer.  If we follow through with this plan we would definitely recommend a list of both paid subscription providers as well as free solutions that seem successful.  That seems to be a popular consensus from those that are already going down this path.

 

Thanks to all the responders on this and please feel free to throw in any other thoughts or suggestions.

 

Have a great weekend!

 

Dan

 

 

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