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Hi everyone - 

I'm curious as to where Network Managers are getting together.

Quick informal poll - 

If you could go to only one conference this year, what would it be?

Educause?  Cisco Live?  Something else?


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Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101
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Great question. I would add to the list:

 

NANOG

ACUTA

Gartner Symposium

 

Pete Morrissey

 

Message from csmith6@swarthmore.edu

Another vote for NANOG. Aruba Networks Airheads. INTEROP. Aaron Smith Network Engineer Swarthmore College
For managers, I'm not so sure CiscoLive! is all that hot, I second annual Educause- and depending on the program, ACUTA. Having been to many and presented at several, the program really does matter for relevance to the value to each of us.



Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
More specifically, Educause Security Professional's Conference, typically in April (this year's was last week).  Regular Educause is a bit thin on the techie bits :)

And if you're involved in security work as well, GFIRST.

Jeff

On 4/24/2013 8:21 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
For managers, I'm not so sure CiscoLive! is all that hot, I second annual Educause- and depending on the program, ACUTA. Having been to many and presented at several, the program really does matter for relevance to the value to each of us.



Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
I stopped going to Interop 5 years ago. It was becoming to vendor-centric. Nothing annoys me more than going to a presentation that is led by a vendor. I've heard that is starting to cycle back though, is that the case? The EDUCAUSE annual conference has been good, but I think we need to find a better mechanism for the Constituency Group meetings. We could easily use 2-3 hours! I believe it was Orlando a few years ago that they literally emptied the tables out of the room with us still standing their talking. -Brian
On 04/24/2013 14:02, Aaron Smith wrote: > Another vote for NANOG. This is a good time to point out that the next installment of NANOG is coming up--registration and the hotel block are open (but filling up quickly). NANOG 58 Roosevelt Hotel New Orleans, LA June 3-5, 2013 Since there is no Internet2 Joint Techs in the summer anymore, I have been asking R&E folks interested in network engineering to come to NANOG. I already see a few people from LONI, CMU, NYU, IU, Internet2, and other EDU constituencies. I have found that there is a lot to learn from my commercial provider friends (many of whom used to be in R&E). Please consider going to an upcoming NANOG--you will be more than welcome! michael ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
The problem I have with NANOG is that they don't have any agenda. I can't justify the expense of a conference without at least knowing the agenda. They also tend to be more ISP focused, which sometimes overlaps with our concerns and sometimes not. One thing about NANOG is that they often post videos of their past presentations. This can be a great resource but is also evidence that their presentations do tend to be very high quality and are given by very knowledgeable individuals. The upside to them putting their agenda together so late is that it tends to be very fresh. Some of the other conferences go to the other extreme and if you are interested in presenting for example, you have to commit to a topic that you have all worked out very far in advance, sometimes too far IMHO. Pete M.
We created our own conference recently.  We are an Enterasys shop and we worked with our rep to find other Enterasys customers in the area and pulled them together for a one day conference.  It was small scale for sure but we got Enterasys to sponsor lunch and the keynote speaker. 
 
Overall it was successful and we laid the groundwork for more to come.  Talk about agenda!  We created it ourselves!  Yes it was small scale but it was exactly what we wanted.  I figure we will do 2-3 per year that are topic based, i.e. Policy, NAC, SEIM, Integration, Chassis Bonding or what have you.
 
John Kaftan
Utica College
Infrastructure Manager
 
 


FYI, the topic list and a draft agenda should be published to www.nanog.org in the next few days. The general issue that you raise is one that we, on the NANOG Program Committee (full disclosure, BTW!), grapple with each NANOG. It's very hard to get good, interesting, *and* timely content submitted early enough that we can have a reliable draft agenda in plenty of time. Moreover, we network engineers are notoriously busy, and there's frequently a mad rush to get proposals in right at the deadline (or just after), so we see a lot of really good content come in at (literally) the last minute. It's essentially the trade-off that you note. michael On 04/25/2013 14:01, Peter P Morrissey wrote: > The problem I have with NANOG is that they don't have any agenda. I can't justify the expense of a conference without at least knowing the agenda. They also tend to be more ISP focused, which sometimes overlaps with our concerns and sometimes not. > > One thing about NANOG is that they often post videos of their past presentations. This can be a great resource but is also evidence that their presentations do tend to be very high quality and are given by very knowledgeable individuals. The upside to them putting their agenda together so late is that it tends to be very fresh. Some of the other conferences go to the other extreme and if you are interested in presenting for example, you have to commit to a topic that you have all worked out very far in advance, sometimes too far IMHO. > > Pete M. > >
I'd have to agree with Pete M on NANOG.  It's pretty ISP/commercial focused.  When I regularly attended NANOG meetings, I would have regular conversations supporting more involvement of higher ed, both in the research and operations areas.  Not much ever came of it.

Still, it's worth attending at least once, so you can see what it's all about.  There is much valuable technical knowledge to be gained, and a great chance to network with some pretty sharp folks.  Entertaining, too, to say the least.

How about the Internet2 Joing techs conferences?  The most recent one was http://events.internet2.edu/2013/tip/  TIP2013.  Of course, it was in Hawaii.... fat chance our budget would allow that....



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Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101


Note that the preliminary agenda was posted about a week ago: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog58/preagenda More comments inline:
Note that the preliminary agenda was posted about a week ago: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog58/preagenda More comments inline:
Note that the preliminary agenda was posted about a week ago: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog58/preagenda More comments inline:
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