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We are currently a Red Hat Enterprise shop. We are looking at other Linux distributions.

Any suggestions?

 

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Nicholas Urrea
UC Hastings College of the Law

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Nick,

We are currently an Ubuntu server shop but were moving to CentOS and RHEL in the coming year for standardizing on a singular platform.

Curious, what are the reasons for leaving RHEL or at least shopping around?


Aaron Hockett
Warner Pacific College
Network Administrator

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On Nov 26, 2012, at 22:19, "Urrea, Nick" <urrean@UCHASTINGS.EDU> wrote:

We are currently a Red Hat Enterprise shop. We are looking at other Linux distributions.

Any suggestions?

 

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Nicholas Urrea
UC Hastings College of the Law

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Nick,

Here, at University of Fortaleza we're  running Gentoo on almost all servers. RHEL only on Oracle Database Servers and IBM TSM.

Alexandre Bastos

Em 27/11/2012, às 03:19, "Urrea, Nick" <urrean@uchastings.edu> escreveu:

We are currently a Red Hat Enterprise shop. We are looking at other Linux distributions.

Any suggestions?

 

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Nicholas Urrea
UC Hastings College of the Law

Network and Systems Engineer
Information Technology
e: urrean@uchastings.edu
ext: 4718
helpdesk:
e: helpdesk@uchastings.edu
ph: 415-581-8802

 

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Here at York University we're running the majority of *nix based systems on Ubuntu. For applications that require a vendor supported operating systems (ie: Oracle apps) we are using Redhat. We have some aging Solaris SPARC infrastructure and we are currently investigating our next steps in that environment with Redhat looking to be a viable contender.

So you've piqued my interest ... what is driving you to think of moving off of Redhat?

Rick

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To:        NETMAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU,
Date:        2012/11/27 05:59 AM
Subject:        Re: [NETMAN] Which Linux Disto are you using
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Nick,

Here, at University of Fortaleza we're  running Gentoo on almost all servers. RHEL only on Oracle Database Servers and IBM TSM.

Alexandre Bastos

Em 27/11/2012, às 03:19, "Urrea, Nick" <urrean@uchastings.edu> escreveu:

We are currently a Red Hat Enterprise shop. We are looking at other Linux distributions.
Any suggestions?
 
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Nicholas Urrea

UC Hastings College of the Law

Network and Systems Engineer
Information Technology
e: urrean@uchastings.edu
ext: 4718
helpdesk:
e: helpdesk@uchastings.edu
ph: 415-581-8802
 

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We are using CentOS mainly and have not had any issues with the various software we use on it.

 

-Brian

 

We're using Redhat for our Oracle/Banner environment, mostly so we can buy support contracts for those servers. We use CentOS for the rest of our linux servers. 

If you're looking at moving away because of the Redhat license changes, I've had great experiences with CentOS. It's possible to cross-grade existing servers between CentOS, Redhat, Oracle Linux and some other Redhat derivatives. http://blogs.utexas.edu/mwedgwood/tag/centos-rhel-crossgrade/ (Note: I have not done this myself and can't say how well it works.)

--Adam


We are pretty much a RedHat shop. What license changes are you referring to?

Thanks,

Chris Mielke

NETWORK ENGINEER 3

COMPUTER AND NETWORK SERVICES



From: Adam Nave <nave@MACALESTER.EDU>
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Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:26 AM
To: "NETMAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <NETMAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [NETMAN] Which Linux Disto are you using

We're using Redhat for our Oracle/Banner environment, mostly so we can buy support contracts for those servers. We use CentOS for the rest of our linux servers. 

If you're looking at moving away because of the Redhat license changes, I've had great experiences with CentOS. It's possible to cross-grade existing servers between CentOS, Redhat, Oracle Linux and some other Redhat derivatives. http://blogs.utexas.edu/mwedgwood/tag/centos-rhel-crossgrade/ (Note: I have not done this myself and can't say how well it works.)

--Adam


On 11/27/2012 8:39 AM, Kellogg, Brian D. wrote:

We are using CentOS mainly and have not had any issues with the various software we use on it.

 

-Brian


CentOS here as well, except for 3rd-party software/database cases where we use RHEL.

Jeff
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We've been using Scientific Linux since their version 6 came out before CentOS 6 and their development seems more open than CentOS. Some older installations are CentOS 5. These are mainly for low level network services, network-related self-service applications, and network management & monitoring. Everything is deployed and managed with PXE/Kickstart and Foreman/Puppet. Our newer servers are using KVM virtualization. We had used Xen previously. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 06:16:53AM +0000, Urrea, Nick wrote: > We are currently a Red Hat Enterprise shop. We are looking at other Linux distributions. > Any suggestions? ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
To paraphrase our sales rep, Red Hat retired the Basic Support (web-only support) subscription and replaced it with the Self-Support (no support, just updates) subscription. Also, for the Academic Server license (the super cheap no support license), they are enforcing the requirement that the subscription be non-production.

--Adam


We are SLES (SUSE) with most business systems, and a mix (SLES, Ubuntu, CENTOS) on the networking side.  The choice for us tends to be what the application best supports, within reason.

 

-Brian

 

We also switched to centos, we even converted some the servers from RHEL directly to centos without much trouble.

 

 

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James Shuttlesworth

Network Technologies Manager

Ursinus College

Information Technology

system@ursinus.edu

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:00 AM
To: NETMAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [NETMAN] Which Linux Disto are you using

 

To paraphrase our sales rep, Red Hat retired the Basic Support (web-only support) subscription and replaced it with the Self-Support (no support, just updates) subscription. Also, for the Academic Server license (the super cheap no support license), they are enforcing the requirement that the subscription be non-production.


--Adam

 

We have some Solaris 10 boxes but primarily we use Debian. There are a few specific systems where I chose CentOS over Debian though. -- Jeremy L. Gibbs Systems Administrator Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
We have been SuSE/SLES, and are moving to ubuntu server.

We are almost entirely Debian/Ubuntu with a one off Redhat box for one of our systems that requires Redhat in order to be supported and maybe a SUSE test system.  Next year we should be back to entirely Debian based. 

I haven’t used any other distro in a while and so can’t comment on comparisons but so far Debian has been extremely stable for us.   Ubuntu tends to have newer package support due to their more frequent release schedule but also having a long term support release with documented end dates has been a blessing.   I don’t believe we currently have any software installed on Debian that had to be compiled from source which has been great for doing updates/upgrades.

 

Andy Poirier

Network Administrator

North Central University

612-343-4758

 

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Subject: Re: [NETMAN] Which Linux Disto are you using

 

We have been SuSE/SLES, and are moving to ubuntu server.

Here at the University of Massachusetts (President's Office) we run Oracle Enterprise Linux (aka Red Hat). We also have some legacy Solaris 10 boxes which will be migrated to OEL soon enough.

Thanks,


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Message from jemurray@zweck.net

We prefer the Ubuntu Server LTS distribution. For the following reasons: 1) The number of quality packages in the default software repositories: This is the number one priority for us. Our system design model attempts to use as many stock vendor packages as possible. The vast majority of the services we run are all open source (radius, nagios, cacti, munin, apache, flow-tools, ipv6->v4 gateways, postfix, sendmail, chat/irc, puppet, mysql, etc, etc, etc...). 99% of the software I want I can get out of a Ubuntu repository. 2) Reliable security and system updates: Many of our systems are setup to auto update. This system has to be rock solid. In the past 3 years of doing this we have had 1 problem on 1 system (which was easily resolved). I consider this acceptable. 3) System Stability: I have yet to encounter a catastrophic problem with any Ubuntu install. Even small problems are very rare. 4) Long Term Support: Ubuntu LTS server edition has support for up to 5 years if you really want to run something that long. 5) Support if you want it: There is a commercial support offering if you need it. We run between 75 and 100 servers both physical and virtualized. We run on hardware that is 10+ years old up to brand new gear from dell, HP, IBM, home grown, etc... We do all this on a staff of 1.5 FTE dedicated to the Unix/server infrastructure. I have personally used RedHat, CentOS, Gentoo, Debian, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SUSE, Solaris, etc... All in production environments over the past 19 years. For our environment, I would pick Ubuntu over all of them for my default distribution. This being said..... If your primary use for the system is to install 3RD party applications, you should verify if they support the .dep package format or not. Many 3rd party vendors support the RedHat RPM format only. We do run a few RedHat servers for this very reason. If you want more information let me know. Jason E. Murray Sr. Systems Engineer Washington University in St. Louis Phone: 314-935-4865 Email: jemurray@wustl.edu Web: http://nss.wustl.edu/~jemurray/
We use a custom Red Hat distribution called springdale: http://springdale.math.ias.edu/ > Springdale Linux (formerly PUIAS Linux) is a complete operating system > for desktops and servers, built by compiling the source packages for > Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Besides these upstream packages, the project > also provides several other repositories: "Addons" which contains > additional packages not included in a stock Red Hat distribution, > "Computational" which carries software specific to scientific > computing, and "Unsupported" which holds various experimental > packages. The distribution is maintained by the Institute for Advanced > Study at Princeton University in the USA. --Christina Klam On 12/01/2012 12:00 AM, NETMAN automatic digest system wrote: > There is 1 message totalling 123 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Which Linux Disto are you using > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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