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You may recall I asked a couple of weeks ago if any of you were using Alfresco as your CMS.  Well, there's been a massive revolt against Alfresco on campus and I'm suddenly in the market to replace it.   At this stage I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support.  I'd like to start with those vendors in our RFP process.  Thanks for you help.
 
 
 
Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer
Enterprise Technology Services
536 Mission Street, Room P-49
San Francisco, CA 94105
v: 415.369.5365
 
I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA.  http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation.
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You may recall I asked a couple of weeks ago if any of you were using Alfresco as your CMS.  Well, there's been a massive revolt against Alfresco on campus and I'm suddenly in the market to replace it.   At this stage I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support.  I'd like to start with those vendors in our RFP process.  Thanks for you help.
 
 
Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer
Enterprise Technology Services
536 Mission Street, Room P-49
San Francisco, CA 94105
v: 415.369.5365
 
I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA.  http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation.
Message from cheneghan@gmail.com

Scott,

Have you looked at Equella?

I'd be happy to give you more details on it if you are interested.

Regard,

Christian

On Mar 20, 2012 7:45 PM, "Scott Ciliberti" <sciliberti@ggu.edu> wrote:
You may recall I asked a couple of weeks ago if any of you were using Alfresco as your CMS.  Well, there's been a massive revolt against Alfresco on campus and I'm suddenly in the market to replace it.   At this stage I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support.  I'd like to start with those vendors in our RFP process.  Thanks for you help.
 
 
Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer
Enterprise Technology Services
536 Mission Street, Room P-49
San Francisco, CA 94105
 
I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA.  http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation.
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

"What's your CMS of choice" is one of the most popular threads on the University Web Developers list (UWebD).  Their archives are on a Google Group so a search for CMS will dig up a number of perspectives:


My anecdotal observation is that Cascade, OmniUpdate, and Drupal all have large followings.  SiteCore is another name that stands out to me.  Northwestern is a Cascade customer though I'm not involved in its implementation.  They have enough higher education clients to have a HiEdCascade listserv.  I can't speak for the others.

--Adam
 

--
Adam Finlayson
Functional Solutions Lead, Weinberg IT
Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences
Northwestern University
847-467-0369



From: Scott Ciliberti <sciliberti@GGU.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:44:06 -0700
To: <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

You may recall I asked a couple of weeks ago if any of you were using Alfresco as your CMS.  Well, there's been a massive revolt against Alfresco on campus and I'm suddenly in the market to replace it.   At this stage I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support.  I'd like to start with those vendors in our RFP process.  Thanks for you help.
 
 
 
Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer
Enterprise Technology Services
536 Mission Street, Room P-49
San Francisco, CA 94105
v: 415.369.5365
 
I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA.  http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation.
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Message from cwyatt@clarku.edu

Interestingly enough a number of smaller colleges are using Wordpress, which has a fairly fanatical following among developers:

 

http://wheatoncollege.edu/

http://www.bates.edu/

http://www.becker.edu/

 

There’s a large batch of them listed on Google Docs that includes both “Blog” sites and larger sites as well.  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnN5FWMlt7YEdDR4cEVVMHpwRDB3N3BpN0g1eVZqblE#gid=0

 

Lots of trade-offs to having a popular open source solution, of course.  At Clark we’re using it for a couple of microsites, eg: http://news.clarku.edu  and http://clarkvoices.clarku.edu

 

-Chuck

 

=======================================

Chuck Wyatt

Manager of Web Technical Services

Information Technology Services ▪ Clark University 

(508) 793-7535

 

 

 

Message from apoorvdurga@gmail.com

Scott - I'd be very interested to know the reasons for this "massive revolt" for Alfresco. Anything you could share?

If by CMS, you mean a Web Content Management System (WCM) some products you could look at are:

Omniupdate
Terminal4
HannonHill

Many others, especially the ones in Mid-* category mentioned here can also point to their higher-ed customers - http://www.realstorygroup.com/Research/Channel/CMS/Vendors

Disclaimer: I work for Real Story Group (the link pasted above) and we evaluate all these vendors. 



On 21-Mar-2012, at 5:14 AM, Scott Ciliberti wrote:

You may recall I asked a couple of weeks ago if any of you were using Alfresco as your CMS.  Well, there's been a massive revolt against Alfresco on campus and I'm suddenly in the market to replace it.   At this stage I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support.  I'd like to start with those vendors in our RFP process.  Thanks for you help.
 
 
 
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Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer
Enterprise Technology Services
536 Mission Street, Room P-49
San Francisco, CA 94105
v: 415.369.5365
 
I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA.  http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation.

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Message from knape_jay@columbusstate.edu

Scott,

Columbus State University in Columbus Georgia has been using OmniUpdate OUCampus CMS for the past 5 years.  We have been very pleased with them.  They are solely positioned in the Higher ed environment and completely understand our issues and needs.  They have done a great job of continue to improve and advance their system to stay up to date with the current tends in web and in higher education.

Thanks,
Jay Knape

--
Jay Knape
Senior Manager of Web Content Services
University Information & Technology Services
w - 706-507-8116
c - 706-593-1655
knape_jay@columbusstate.edu
Columbus State University
www.ColumbusState.edu

Message from cbastian@hillcollege.edu

Jay,

   Would you be willing to divulge an approximate cost of setting up that CMS?  Just curious, thanks.

 

 

Thank you,

Charles Bastian

Web Systems Technician

Web Design/Development Instructor

Hill College - 112 Lamar Dr, Hillsboro TX 76645

Desk    254.659.7846

Cell      254.205.8819

Hours  8a-4:30p (M-Th)

              8a-4:p (Fri)

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mr. Jay Knape
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:36 AM
To: WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

 

Scott,

Columbus State University in Columbus Georgia has been using OmniUpdate OUCampus CMS for the past 5 years.  We have been very pleased with them.  They are solely positioned in the Higher ed environment and completely understand our issues and needs.  They have done a great job of continue to improve and advance their system to stay up to date with the current tends in web and in higher education.

Thanks,
Jay Knape

--
Jay Knape
Senior Manager of Web Content Services
University Information & Technology Services
w - 706-507-8116
c - 706-593-1655
knape_jay@columbusstate.edu
Columbus State University
www.ColumbusState.edu

UALR is using WordPress to support around 500 sites at the moment, including our homepage at ualr.edu.

We are migrating to a WordPress Network to support these sites, and have done quite a bit of theme and plugin development to support the experience we want.

The primary reason we chose WordPress? It has the best back-end admin / content author interface in the business. I've never seen any other CMS (and we reviewed many enterprise-grade CMSes) with a better user experience for content authors. I routinely tell our leadership—who are a bit wary of running an open-source product with no paid support for such a mission-critical asset; they'd feel more comfortable if they were paying tens of thousands for a vendor product—that if we can find a third-party enterprise CMS with an admin interface as good or better than WordPress's, then I'd bite.

It does have a fanatical developer community, and that has been nothing but a boon for us. We are wary of using too many plugins, but for core, infrastructural things (authentication, backups, analytics, roles/permissions, etc.) there has always been a well-supported plugin available. And the amount of documentation is legion compared to most open-source projects.

If you don't want to develop, there are some fairly powerful theme frameworks you can buy or download. The same goes for plugins.

And yes, it started out as a blogging platform. And it's still a great blogging platform (so if you are planning on running news or student blog sites, I recommend it 100%). But the roadmap for WordPress is aimed at functionality traditionally found in a CMS. It's going to be the best of both worlds. The first step toward that goal was making a WordPress Network part of core (the ability to run multiple microsites in a single installation).

Daniel Spillers
University of Arkansas at Little Rock | Information Technology Services




Message from diana.keeling@wku.edu

We just started using OmniUpdate last year.  I'll let you know off line how much we paid if you want.   I still have a lot of information from when we were researching CMS's and pros and cons of a few of them.  Just let me know what all type of info you are looking for.


--
Thank you,

Diana Keeling
Web Application Developer
Administrative Systems
Western Kentucky University

From: Charles Bastian <cbastian@HILLCOLLEGE.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:50:52 -0500
To: "WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

Jay,

   Would you be willing to divulge an approximate cost of setting up that CMS?  Just curious, thanks.

 

 

Thank you,

Charles Bastian

Web Systems Technician

Web Design/Development Instructor

Hill College - 112 Lamar Dr, Hillsboro TX 76645

Desk    254.659.7846

Cell      254.205.8819

Hours  8a-4:30p (M-Th)

              8a-4:p (Fri)

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mr. Jay Knape
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:36 AM
To: WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

 

Scott,

Columbus State University in Columbus Georgia has been using OmniUpdate OUCampus CMS for the past 5 years.  We have been very pleased with them.  They are solely positioned in the Higher ed environment and completely understand our issues and needs.  They have done a great job of continue to improve and advance their system to stay up to date with the current tends in web and in higher education.

Thanks,
Jay Knape

--
Jay Knape
Senior Manager of Web Content Services
University Information & Technology Services
w - 706-507-8116
c - 706-593-1655
knape_jay@columbusstate.edu
Columbus State University
www.ColumbusState.edu

Message from cbastian@hillcollege.edu

Thanks Diana,

   Right now I’m working on rebuilding our schools website.  I’m currently teaching my Drupal, and am planning on using that.  But, I’m still in the beginning phases of it, so I would be willing to change if I found something better.  So far the only quote I’ve received (or looked for) was in getting a web company (The Nerdery) to assist with the build.  But they initially quoted us around 50k, and then I never heard back from them…  So, that went out of the window. lol… 

 

 

Thank you,

Charles Bastian

Web Systems Technician

Web Design/Development Instructor

Hill College - 112 Lamar Dr, Hillsboro TX 76645

Desk    254.659.7846

Cell      254.205.8819

Hours  8a-4:30p (M-Th)

              8a-4:p (Fri)

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Keeling, Diana
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:54 AM
To: WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

 

We just started using OmniUpdate last year.  I'll let you know off line how much we paid if you want.   I still have a lot of information from when we were researching CMS's and pros and cons of a few of them.  Just let me know what all type of info you are looking for.

 

 

--

Thank you,

 

Diana Keeling

Web Application Developer

Administrative Systems

Western Kentucky University

 

From: Charles Bastian <cbastian@HILLCOLLEGE.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:50:52 -0500
To: "WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

 

Jay,

   Would you be willing to divulge an approximate cost of setting up that CMS?  Just curious, thanks.

 

 

Thank you,

Charles Bastian

Web Systems Technician

Web Design/Development Instructor

Hill College - 112 Lamar Dr, Hillsboro TX 76645

Desk    254.659.7846

Cell      254.205.8819

Hours  8a-4:30p (M-Th)

              8a-4:p (Fri)

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mr. Jay Knape
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:36 AM
To: WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

 

Scott,

Columbus State University in Columbus Georgia has been using OmniUpdate OUCampus CMS for the past 5 years.  We have been very pleased with them.  They are solely positioned in the Higher ed environment and completely understand our issues and needs.  They have done a great job of continue to improve and advance their system to stay up to date with the current tends in web and in higher education.

Thanks,
Jay Knape

--
Jay Knape
Senior Manager of Web Content Services
University Information & Technology Services
w - 706-507-8116
c - 706-593-1655
knape_jay@columbusstate.edu
Columbus State University
www.ColumbusState.edu

Message from tom.cheek@gmail.com

Hi All,

At Tulane University we have been using CommonSpot. We have had it running for approx 5 years and it is serving 100k+ pages a day. It took a lot of hardware to get the performance where we wanted it. 3 read servers, 1 authoring server, and 1 database backend. It requires Coldfusion which I will reserve opinion on. :)  Authoring is great for basic edits but visual design tedious. Overall though it has been a huge success in terms of University wide adaptation.

-Tom

 

 Tom Cheek

Web Applications Administrator

p. 504.988.8534 f. 504.988.8505

 

Tulane University Technology Services

1555 Poydras St., Ste. 1400, Office 1415

New Orleans, LA 70112



Totally agree with Daniel here. I'm a wordpress "zealot" and, although only a small part of our university uses it (http://my.mercyhurst.edu), it is so easy to create generic pages, custom pages, and develop plugins, as most of us here already use PHP for the majority of our sites. We have also used WP for faculty members who would like a clean, simple site, but do not want to create the entire site themselves using just HTML (they don't have the time to learn those skills). WordPress Network is great, but being able to customize WP is essential to its success. As an out of the box solution it may be lacking, but add in plugins developed by its vast community, tutorials on the web (which are VERY abundant) and your own tweaks and customizations, WP is a very lean and powerful tool. Easy to train users on it as well!

Kind Regards,

Patrick Canella  
Web Developer – Information Technology
Mercyhurst University



From: Daniel Spillers <djspillers@UALR.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Web Administrators Constituent Group Listserv <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:51:07 -0400
To: "WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions

UALR is using WordPress to support around 500 sites at the moment, including our homepage at ualr.edu.

We are migrating to a WordPress Network to support these sites, and have done quite a bit of theme and plugin development to support the experience we want.

The primary reason we chose WordPress? It has the best back-end admin / content author interface in the business. I've never seen any other CMS (and we reviewed many enterprise-grade CMSes) with a better user experience for content authors. I routinely tell our leadership—who are a bit wary of running an open-source product with no paid support for such a mission-critical asset; they'd feel more comfortable if they were paying tens of thousands for a vendor product—that if we can find a third-party enterprise CMS with an admin interface as good or better than WordPress's, then I'd bite.

It does have a fanatical developer community, and that has been nothing but a boon for us. We are wary of using too many plugins, but for core, infrastructural things (authentication, backups, analytics, roles/permissions, etc.) there has always been a well-supported plugin available. And the amount of documentation is legion compared to most open-source projects.

If you don't want to develop, there are some fairly powerful theme frameworks you can buy or download. The same goes for plugins.

And yes, it started out as a blogging platform. And it's still a great blogging platform (so if you are planning on running news or student blog sites, I recommend it 100%). But the roadmap for WordPress is aimed at functionality traditionally found in a CMS. It's going to be the best of both worlds. The first step toward that goal was making a WordPress Network part of core (the ability to run multiple microsites in a single installation).

Daniel Spillers
University of Arkansas at Little Rock | Information Technology Services




Message from kotarskj@southwestern.edu

At Southwestern, we use a fantastic CMS called LiveWhale, built by White Whale Web Services. Its a CMS made for higher education by a company that works exclusively in higher education. We love it because it has set a very low bar for entry to content editing for our professors and administrators. With about an hour of training, we can show just about anyone how to edit their website through a regular ol' web browser (no fancy software needed).

LiveWhale is simple to use, flexible, and allows nearly endless configurable ways to develop and show content on the website. Its got plenty of nice hooks into popular web apps like Google Analytics, Twitter, and Facebook. And above everything, it's designed to spur a culture of sharing amongst content creators, who can suggest or use content that other users have created (news, events, images, widgets, you name it), all over the system.

No CMS can solve the problem of lazy content creators. But LiveWhale at least makes the editor experience part fun and easy (two of the words my users most often associate with it). If you're considering an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink CMS or roll your eyes when someone tells you how wonderful and easy Drupal or WordPress are to configure, you owe it to yourself to at least check out LiveWhale.

http://livewhale.com/

_________________________________________________
john j. kotarski
director for web development and communications
southwestern university
georgetown, texas

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We implemented Live Whale (http://www.livewhale.com/) in the past year. From: Scott Ciliberti > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE CIO Constituent Group Listserv > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:45:04 -0500 To: "CIO@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" > Subject: [CIO] CMS Suggestions You may recall I asked a couple of weeks ago if any of you were using Alfresco as your CMS. Well, there's been a massive revolt against Alfresco on campus and I'm suddenly in the market to replace it. At this stage I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support. I'd like to start with those vendors in our RFP process. Thanks for you help. [cid:XCLVJDHITIZE.IMAGE_7.jpg] Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer Enterprise Technology Services 536 Mission Street, Room P-49 San Francisco, CA 94105 v: 415.369.5365 http://www.ggu.edu I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA. http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Message from jon.wilcox@angelo.edu

I'll second John. We use LiveWhale and you would be wise to give it some serious consideration. After previously considering some of the major CMS options out there (commercial and open source) we were lucky to have discovered LiveWhale. As John said, it's extremely easy to use. I can sum the basics up in a few short sentences. Navigate to your web page in a browser. Log in and click "Edit Page". Make changes and Save. If you can use a web browser and normal Word-style editing tools you can manage your web content. But that description almost seems too simple and fails to convey the real power of LiveWhale. Beyond basic page editing, LiveWhale also has the ability to manage dynamic content like News, Events, Forms, Galleries, and lots more. And it makes it easy to share this content across the university. Even then, the tool is only as good as the company that supports it, and you may never find a vendor that is as committed to the success of their product and customers as those at White Whale. And that really was the point of the original poster's question, "I'm looking for vendors in the higher ed market that you have a positive working relationship with in terms of implementation and ongoing support." White Whale works exclusively with Higher Ed clients and LiveWhale, the CMS, was grown directly out of the needs of those clients. -- Jon Wilcox Web Development Specialist Angelo State University

At Michigan State University we use Hannon Hill, Cascade Server. It is also used by Northwestern & Indiana State University. They have been good to work with and I will say that development within Cascade Server has been an a high learning curve. We implemented the CMS, a redesigned MSU.edu and a new brand in parallel. I wouldn’t recommend that kind of strategy and I will say the developers are happy working with this CMS.

Debbie

_________________________

Debbie Malcangi

IT Services, Web

Michigan State University

324 Computer Center

East Lansing, Michigan 48824

517-432-0456

http://www.msu.edu

 

 

 

 

Message from kmnorton@bhcc.mass.edu

We have  been researching on a new CMS for the last 9 months and have done quite a bit of research and testing.  We are looking at Terminal Four. They are focusing on higher education as well.

http://www.terminalfour.com

Karen

 

Karen Norton
Web Manager
Bunker Hill Community College
Boston, MA 02129
(617) 228-2288
kmnorton@bhcc.mass.edu

We use Ingeniux.. have since 2002.

 

 

Stephanie Pointer Brunetta, M.S.
Web Content Manager
Hartwick College
Oneonta, New York 13820
www.hartwick.edu

www.hartwickexperience.com

 

 

 

Message from shesseltine@uncfsu.edu

Stephanie,
Can you email me off line? We are in the process of implementing Ingeniux and it would be great to have contact with another institution that is already an Ingeniux customer.
Suzanne Hesseltine
Shesseltine@uncfsu.edu
Fayetteville State University
NC
 
From: Brunetta, Stephanie [mailto:BrunettaS@HARTWICK.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 01:40 PM
To: WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU <WEB@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WEB] CMS Suggestions
 

We use Ingeniux.. have since 2002.

 

 

Stephanie Pointer Brunetta, M.S.
Web Content Manager
Hartwick College
Oneonta, New York 13820
www.hartwick.edu

www.hartwickexperience.com

 

 

 

Wow!  Thank you so much for the response.  It's helpful to know what other higher ed institutions are using.
 
I helped choose Ingeniux and my previous institution and overall was glad we made the decision to move ahead with them.  They are definitely on my list to check out.
 
 
Scott Ciliberti, Chief Information Officer
Enterprise Technology Services
536 Mission Street, Room P-49
San Francisco, CA 94105
v: 415.369.5365
 
I'm participating in the AIDS Lifecycle; a 7-day 545 mile cycling fundraising event between SF and LA.  http://www.tofighthiv.org/goto/sciliberti to make a donation.
Oh really where did you work before here? There are a never of Ingeniux customers in california

Sent from my iPhone

We’re on Sitecore. Things that I like about it:

·         One instance for the whole campus that supports very different looks and feel for different sites.

·         XSLT for presentation system, but can easily add advanced functionality with C#.

·         Since it’s built on .NET ecosystem, you have access to .NET and almost anything that can run on .NET, so integration is not difficult.

·         Any part of the system is extensible. Yes, literally any. You can even override the vendor’s core code. (That’s a double-edged sword!)

·         The vendor allows their code to be decompiled, so you can really figure out the inner workings.

·         Very responsive vendor, in general. We’re on our 4th year with Sitecore, and have never experienced such a responsive vendor.

·         Robust engagement platform with advanced marketing analytics, although I sense it’s overkill for general university use.

 

Aren

 

We are on Sitecore also--just celebrated our two year go-live "anniversary" with them. Very capable infrastructure. Unlike Aren, we do zero XSLT and chose to do everything through ascx/aspx/C# code.
 
Mark
Cedarville University

>>> On 3/21/2012 at 2:39 PM, in message <390953B3C62EA94692B8986C99A353FC34701640@SXMB1PG.SYSTEMS.SMU.EDU>, "Cambre, Aren" <acambre@MAIL.SMU.EDU> wrote:

We’re on Sitecore. Things that I like about it:

·         One instance for the whole campus that supports very different looks and feel for different sites.

·         XSLT for presentation system, but can easily add advanced functionality with C#.

·         Since it’s built on .NET ecosystem, you have access to .NET and almost anything that can run on .NET, so integration is not difficult.

·         Any part of the system is extensible. Yes, literally any. You can even override the vendor’s core code. (That’s a double-edged sword!)

·         The vendor allows their code to be decompiled, so you can really figure out the inner workings.

·         Very responsive vendor, in general. We’re on our 4th year with Sitecore, and have never experienced such a responsive vendor.

·         Robust engagement platform with advanced marketing analytics, although I sense it’s overkill for general university use.

 

Aren

 

Yeah, U. Alberta Edmondson is the same way: 100% C#, no XSLT.

 

A big pro of 100% C# is performance. We chose XSLT/C# hybrid because we want our marketing dep’t to mostly own and develop the presentation layer. That’s where the XSLT stuff added value for us.

 

Aren

 

Message from bhoard@rmc.edu

We have been on Sitecore since 2007, and we’ve had mixed results (all starting with a blown implementation by a Sitecore-certified partner that Sitecore corporate recommended to us). 

 

Sitecore is also more of a CMS framework out of the box, and does require significant development staff.  Yes, it’s customizable, but that comes at a price.  Watch out for that.

 

Speaking of prices though, we’re also about to experience a sudden 40% hike in our annual maintenance agreement with Sitecore.  According to Sitecore, we were not being billed “correctly” from 2007-2011 (I disagree), and they’re “fixing” things in FY2012-2013.  

 

The short end of the story is this – Sitecore is now going to charge us for something they gave to us for free as a customer service gesture back in 2007 after the initial botched implementation.  We never requested the products that are now going to cause our maintenance rates to pop 40%.  As the Sitecore rep said though … “there’s no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube” so we’re left paying.  This result was dropped on us suddenly last summer, so we’re looking for alternatives right now.  I have a hard time recommending the product in this context though.

 

-Brent

 

 

Hi Scott,

 

I’m forwarding a response from our Web Management Director. Feel free to contact him directly for details. We’ve been very pleased with CommonSpot and PaperThin’s support.

 

Mickey

 

At Mercer University, we conducted a fairly extensive search and evaluation before selecting our current CMS, PaperThin CommonSpot.  They have many higher-ed clients, provide great support, and are very interested in letting their customers have a stake in product development.  If you’re interested, I’ll be glad to tell you more about it.

 

Thanks,

Rob

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Rob Saxon
Director
Web Management
Mercer University
478-301-5550

 

 

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Michael R. Belote

Chief Technology Officer

Mercer University

1400 Coleman Avenue

Macon, GA 31207

O: 478-301-2850

M: 478-719-2955

http://IT.Mercer.edu

 

Message from cbastian@hillcollege.edu

Just an FYI for everyone, we just had a demo of the Hannon Hill CMS; and, everyone involved was very impressed.  I believe that they have a serious selling point with their Spectate marketing tools, which come free with the CMS.  Just in case anyone has looked at them in the past, when they did not have this addition; you might be interested in looking at them again. 

 

 

Thank you,

Charles Bastian

Web Systems Technician

Web Design/Development Instructor

Hill College - 112 Lamar Dr, Hillsboro TX 76645

Desk    254.659.7846

Cell      254.205.8819

Hours  8a-4:30p (M-Th)

              8a-4:p (Fri)

 

 

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