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Sorry for hyjacking this thread a little: Otoh I think for the long term WiFi Direct (aka Miracast) is more promising for mirror and print functions and the like. Anybody already seen some real products (Samsung, Panasonic maybe) with this? What to think of the WiFi spectrum side on this? (ad-hoc is evil, you know :-) Kees >>> Ian McDonald 11/16/2012 3:31 >>> As long as whatever they come up works on networks where client separation is deployed. I see this as a massive opportunity to get something much more sane than anything I've seen before in this space. -- ian

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Message from mark.duling@biola.edu

Necessity is the mother of invention.  This has probably been mentioned before, but this reminds me of AppleTalk zones.  All that had to be worked out in advance to gain acceptance in business, but now IT is being "consumerized" and so the process is reversed once demand reaches critical mass.

And the article says Apple TV doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise.  Didn't they add that in the last Apple TV software update?

Mark 


Message from caseb@purdue.edu

The newest release of the Apple TV software does support WPA2 Enterprise but, of course, there’s a catch. It can’t be configured directly from the Apple TV itself. It has to be done using the Apple Configurator software and pushed to the Apple TV via the USB port on the back (at least that was the case the last time I looked at this).  

 

A good gotcha to note for anyone trying this…it’s possible to use an HDMI cable with too large of a connector which covers the USB port on the Apple TV. One of our staff ran into this trying to push a WPA2 Enterprise profile to an Apple TV. The USB cable had to be plugged in to push the profile but there’s some on-screen dialog to work with too apparently that requires the HDMI cable to be connected. Hooray for technology.

 

-Brandon

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Duling
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:54 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

Necessity is the mother of invention.  This has probably been mentioned before, but this reminds me of AppleTalk zones.  All that had to be worked out in advance to gain acceptance in business, but now IT is being "consumerized" and so the process is reversed once demand reaches critical mass.

 

And the article says Apple TV doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise.  Didn't they add that in the last Apple TV software update?

 

Mark 

 

Also, the AppleTVs do not have an internal battery, so when the device is unplugged or suffers a power loss, the time will reset which will cause issues with 1x authentication. I’ve also heard that it may lose the 1x config after a power loss.

 

 

______________________________________________

Tim Cappalli | Asst. Network Administrator

+1 (802) 424-0550 | cappalli@lyndonstate.edu

Office of Information Technology (OIT)

Lyndon State College

oit.lyndonstate.edu | @LyndonOIT

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Case, Brandon J
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:04 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

The newest release of the Apple TV software does support WPA2 Enterprise but, of course, there’s a catch. It can’t be configured directly from the Apple TV itself. It has to be done using the Apple Configurator software and pushed to the Apple TV via the USB port on the back (at least that was the case the last time I looked at this).  

 

A good gotcha to note for anyone trying this…it’s possible to use an HDMI cable with too large of a connector which covers the USB port on the Apple TV. One of our staff ran into this trying to push a WPA2 Enterprise profile to an Apple TV. The USB cable had to be plugged in to push the profile but there’s some on-screen dialog to work with too apparently that requires the HDMI cable to be connected. Hooray for technology.

 

-Brandon

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Duling
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:54 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

Necessity is the mother of invention.  This has probably been mentioned before, but this reminds me of AppleTalk zones.  All that had to be worked out in advance to gain acceptance in business, but now IT is being "consumerized" and so the process is reversed once demand reaches critical mass.

 

And the article says Apple TV doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise.  Didn't they add that in the last Apple TV software update?

 

Mark 

 

Message from lkfirestone@miami.edu

Not sure if they changed this in their latest release, but in the release I worked with, since my HDMI cable was too big to have the USB cable plugged in as well, I just pulled it out once it reached that home screen point. I didn’t need any on-screen dialog to work with. It wasn’t feasible unless I wanted to damage the USB port or cable. Ironically though, even if I waited the allotted time for the AppleTV to boot up with no HDMI cable in, it never worked….

 

~Lisa

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Case, Brandon J
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:04 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

The newest release of the Apple TV software does support WPA2 Enterprise but, of course, there’s a catch. It can’t be configured directly from the Apple TV itself. It has to be done using the Apple Configurator software and pushed to the Apple TV via the USB port on the back (at least that was the case the last time I looked at this).  

 

A good gotcha to note for anyone trying this…it’s possible to use an HDMI cable with too large of a connector which covers the USB port on the Apple TV. One of our staff ran into this trying to push a WPA2 Enterprise profile to an Apple TV. The USB cable had to be plugged in to push the profile but there’s some on-screen dialog to work with too apparently that requires the HDMI cable to be connected. Hooray for technology.

 

-Brandon

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Duling
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:54 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

Necessity is the mother of invention.  This has probably been mentioned before, but this reminds me of AppleTalk zones.  All that had to be worked out in advance to gain acceptance in business, but now IT is being "consumerized" and so the process is reversed once demand reaches critical mass.

 

And the article says Apple TV doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise.  Didn't they add that in the last Apple TV software update?

 

Mark 

 

Message from lkfirestone@miami.edu

I’m hoping that the next generation will have an internal battery… J

 

I didn’t have the AppleTV unplugged long enough to see if it would lose its config completely, but another option is having it connect to an open network to grab a date and time and then manually changing SSIDs to your 1x network… It’s not a perfect solution, but it could kind of work in the interim…

 

 

~Lisa

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Cappalli, Tim G @ LSC-OIT
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 5:33 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

Also, the AppleTVs do not have an internal battery, so when the device is unplugged or suffers a power loss, the time will reset which will cause issues with 1x authentication. I’ve also heard that it may lose the 1x config after a power loss.

 

 

______________________________________________

Tim Cappalli | Asst. Network Administrator

+1 (802) 424-0550 | cappalli@lyndonstate.edu

Office of Information Technology (OIT)

Lyndon State College

oit.lyndonstate.edu | @LyndonOIT

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Case, Brandon J
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:04 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

The newest release of the Apple TV software does support WPA2 Enterprise but, of course, there’s a catch. It can’t be configured directly from the Apple TV itself. It has to be done using the Apple Configurator software and pushed to the Apple TV via the USB port on the back (at least that was the case the last time I looked at this).  

 

A good gotcha to note for anyone trying this…it’s possible to use an HDMI cable with too large of a connector which covers the USB port on the Apple TV. One of our staff ran into this trying to push a WPA2 Enterprise profile to an Apple TV. The USB cable had to be plugged in to push the profile but there’s some on-screen dialog to work with too apparently that requires the HDMI cable to be connected. Hooray for technology.

 

-Brandon

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Duling
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:54 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple attempting to fix their faux-paus

 

Necessity is the mother of invention.  This has probably been mentioned before, but this reminds me of AppleTalk zones.  All that had to be worked out in advance to gain acceptance in business, but now IT is being "consumerized" and so the process is reversed once demand reaches critical mass.

 

And the article says Apple TV doesn't support WPA2 Enterprise.  Didn't they add that in the last Apple TV software update?

 

Mark 

 

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