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Is all over the media... As a customer of both companies, I hope the Meraki way of life survives the transition.

Lee Badman


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Meraki -

Welcome to the Dark Side.

- Darth Cisco
-
Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101


Message from jason.cook@adelaide.edu.au

Does this mean there’s hope for Prime/NCS/WCS/whatever they call the next interim?

 

Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest maker of computer networking gear, said Sunday it is buying Meraki for $1.2 billion to expand its ability to let customers compute in the cloud.

 

Rob Soderbery, senior vice president, Cisco Enterprise Networking Group, said in a statement, "Meraki's solution was built from the ground up optimized for cloud, with tremendous scale, and is already in use by thousands of customers to manage hundreds of thousands of devices."

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Pete Hoffswell
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 11:07 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Meraki -

 

Welcome to the Dark Side.

 

- Darth Cisco
-
Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101

http://www.meraki.com/company/cisco-acquisition-faq Kees >>> Jason Cook 19-11-2012 4:39 >>> Does this mean there's hope for Prime/NCS/WCS/whatever they call the next interim? Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest maker of computer networking gear, said Sunday it is buying Meraki for $1.2 billion to expand its ability to let customers compute in the cloud. Rob Soderbery, senior vice president, Cisco Enterprise Networking Group, said in a statement, "Meraki's solution was built from the ground up optimized for cloud, with tremendous scale, and is already in use by thousands of customers to manage hundreds of thousands of devices." -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph : +61 8 8313 4800 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Pete Hoffswell Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 11:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki Meraki - Welcome to the Dark Side. - Darth Cisco - Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu http://www.davenport.edu 616-732-1101
Apparently, Cisco likes Aerohive's strategy of cloud-based management of access points as well....  ;-)

Cisco is purchasing Meraki -- announced yesterday (Sunday Nov 18, 2012 ). Morrow
Message from matt.ashfield@nbcc.ca

So how long before there’s a firmware flash for Cisco APs so they can become cloud-based? I’m not sure the pricepoint would be any better though…nobody’s in business to bring in less revenue.


My question about this cloud-based technology is why would I want my “controller” to be cloud based if I already have expertise in managing wireless networks via the controller model?

Features such as Cisco’s Flex (ie local switching) which offload your data traffic at the switch essentially turn your controllers into “private clouds” if you want to call it that.  Obviously in the “cloud” based you don’t have to buy a controller and your licensing changes, but I’m assuming they get your $ one way or another! Not trying to be snarky here, just wondering what I’m missing.

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:40 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Does this mean there’s hope for Prime/NCS/WCS/whatever they call the next interim?

 

Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest maker of computer networking gear, said Sunday it is buying Meraki for $1.2 billion to expand its ability to let customers compute in the cloud.

 

Rob Soderbery, senior vice president, Cisco Enterprise Networking Group, said in a statement, "Meraki's solution was built from the ground up optimized for cloud, with tremendous scale, and is already in use by thousands of customers to manage hundreds of thousands of devices."

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Pete Hoffswell
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 11:07 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Meraki -

 

Welcome to the Dark Side.

 

- Darth Cisco
-
Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101

Remember, cloud-based controller is not the only outstanding features of Meraki wirelss solution, others like "Layer 7 Visibility". Alos Meraki does not only have wirelss product line, it has switch and security appliances as well. Same "Layer 7 Visibility" is also available on the access switch -- imaging how powerful and useful it is. And their security product even can compete with other Next-generation firewall vendors, like Plao Alto. I would say Cisco grabbed a good deal -- although I hate to see.

David Wang
Networking Services | www.uoguelph.ca/ccs519-824-4120 x52046


Message from jason.cook@adelaide.edu.au

I’m with you there, at this stage I couldn’t see value in having the controller in the cloud. My comment was probably more out of frustration with Cisco’s management tool (WCS/NCS/now Prime), and how positively customers of Meraki talk about their cloud based management system.

 

While most of the management features of NCS etc have been good, on a stable release there’s not a lot to complain about, and it certainly helps to manage multiple controllers we’ve had some pretty reasonable issues with most releases and reporting leaves a bit to be desired. I’d probably still prefer management tools to be kept locally. Mostly it’d just be nice to have management system that just works as expected. Hopefully some of that can be brought across at some point.

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ashfield, Matt (NBCC)
Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 6:26 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

So how long before there’s a firmware flash for Cisco APs so they can become cloud-based? I’m not sure the pricepoint would be any better though…nobody’s in business to bring in less revenue.


My question about this cloud-based technology is why would I want my “controller” to be cloud based if I already have expertise in managing wireless networks via the controller model?

Features such as Cisco’s Flex (ie local switching) which offload your data traffic at the switch essentially turn your controllers into “private clouds” if you want to call it that.  Obviously in the “cloud” based you don’t have to buy a controller and your licensing changes, but I’m assuming they get your $ one way or another! Not trying to be snarky here, just wondering what I’m missing.

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:40 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Does this mean there’s hope for Prime/NCS/WCS/whatever they call the next interim?

 

Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest maker of computer networking gear, said Sunday it is buying Meraki for $1.2 billion to expand its ability to let customers compute in the cloud.

 

Rob Soderbery, senior vice president, Cisco Enterprise Networking Group, said in a statement, "Meraki's solution was built from the ground up optimized for cloud, with tremendous scale, and is already in use by thousands of customers to manage hundreds of thousands of devices."

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Pete Hoffswell
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 11:07 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Meraki -

 

Welcome to the Dark Side.

 

- Darth Cisco
-
Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101

Witness!


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jason Cook [jason.cook@ADELAIDE.EDU.AU]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:25 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

I’m with you there, at this stage I couldn’t see value in having the controller in the cloud. My comment was probably more out of frustration with Cisco’s management tool (WCS/NCS/now Prime), and how positively customers of Meraki talk about their cloud based management system.

 

While most of the management features of NCS etc have been good, on a stable release there’s not a lot to complain about, and it certainly helps to manage multiple controllers we’ve had some pretty reasonable issues with most releases and reporting leaves a bit to be desired. I’d probably still prefer management tools to be kept locally. Mostly it’d just be nice to have management system that just works as expected. Hopefully some of that can be brought across at some point.

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ashfield, Matt (NBCC)
Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 6:26 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

So how long before there’s a firmware flash for Cisco APs so they can become cloud-based? I’m not sure the pricepoint would be any better though…nobody’s in business to bring in less revenue.


My question about this cloud-based technology is why would I want my “controller” to be cloud based if I already have expertise in managing wireless networks via the controller model?

Features such as Cisco’s Flex (ie local switching) which offload your data traffic at the switch essentially turn your controllers into “private clouds” if you want to call it that.  Obviously in the “cloud” based you don’t have to buy a controller and your licensing changes, but I’m assuming they get your $ one way or another! Not trying to be snarky here, just wondering what I’m missing.

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:40 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Does this mean there’s hope for Prime/NCS/WCS/whatever they call the next interim?

 

Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest maker of computer networking gear, said Sunday it is buying Meraki for $1.2 billion to expand its ability to let customers compute in the cloud.

 

Rob Soderbery, senior vice president, Cisco Enterprise Networking Group, said in a statement, "Meraki's solution was built from the ground up optimized for cloud, with tremendous scale, and is already in use by thousands of customers to manage hundreds of thousands of devices."

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Pete Hoffswell
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 11:07 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Meraki -

 

Welcome to the Dark Side.

 

- Darth Cisco
-
Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffswell@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu
616-732-1101

Lee, I saw your "Dear Cisco, Please Don't Screw Up Meraki" (http://www.networkcomputing.com/wireless/dear-cisco-please-dont-screw-up-meraki/240142341). Big Thanks, that's exactly what I hated to see and wanted to say.


David Wang
Networking Services | www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | 519-824-4120 x52046



Thanks, David. For me it’s all about having choices, and Meraki has been a unique, viable, compelling choice in certain circumstances. I just hope that somehow (and against the odds) Cisco preserves the Meraki line as a viable, unique option.

 

-Lee

 

Lee H. Badman

Network Architect/Wireless TME

Information Technology and Services (ITS)

Syracuse University

315 443-3003

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of David Wang@U of G
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:13 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

 

Lee, I saw your "Dear Cisco, Please Don't Screw Up Meraki" (http://www.networkcomputing.com/wireless/dear-cisco-please-dont-screw-up-meraki/240142341). Big Thanks, that's exactly what I hated to see and wanted to say.

 


David Wang

Networking Services | www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | 519-824-4120 x52046



As an exclusively Meraki campus, I echo Lee's plea.  It's working.  Don't fix it, Cisco.  Please.

John

http://www.meraki.com/company/cisco-acquisition-faq 


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of John Rodkey [rodkey@WESTMONT.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:41 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Just Bought Meraki

As an exclusively Meraki campus, I echo Lee's plea.  It's working.  Don't fix it, Cisco.  Please.

John