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So we're looking at an eduroam deployment here, and one question that has come up is one of credentials. Here at NU, we have 2 identifiers - the NetID and the alias. All of the directories and the like are keyed off of the NetID, which does not have to be the same as the alias. Top-level email addresses take the form @northwestern.edu. Under a basic default eduroam deployment, a user would use @northwestern.edu as his/her username to authenticate to the wireless network. This is not 100% ideal from an end user point of view, though, since that could potentially lead to some confusion since at least here, netid rarely is the same as alias. Obviously, at some schools, netid = alias, so this is a moot point, but have other schools encountered support/documentation issues because of this? As an alternative, has anyone looking into using a subdomain for the realm? i.e., @eduroam.northwestern.edu? I tried going through the FAQs and documentation at , and there is some mention of avoiding subdomains at . Personally, I think with good enough documentation we should be able to do the standard @northwestern.edu without a lot of trouble, but we also need to do due diligence and explore these options. :) Thanks!! -- Julian Y. Koh Manager, Network Transport, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: PGP Public Key: ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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Hey Julian, We recently went through this after cranking up eduroam officially this past fall. We have similar points of confusion, plus a bonus. Our email addresses are first-last@utc.edu unless there are conflicts, in which case we use a middle initial or a suffix. Our official "UTCid" is a rather arbitrary string (3 letters, 3 numbers, where that came from don't ask me, it was back in the "no-SSNs" conversion). The directory key / userID is in fact the UTCid, and is typically used as a login for everything. It's also the Active Directory ID. And now the bonus... the AD domain is in fact utc.tennessee.edu (we're a "branch" of the state's tennessee.edu domain), so there's already some confusion as to using the tennessee.edu versus utc.edu. Even worse... there are root forest entries for utcID@tennessee.edu as well as @utc.tennessee.edu. And of course UTK started the whole eduroam thing, and they're already taking tennessee.edu as local :( although they still take utk.edu as well. So we more or less got stuck with UTCid@utc.edu to avoid the domain/realm confusion with the big orange one. I would advise you rig up your local .1X to authenticate with your fully-qualified eduroam username, just so users can consistently login with the same credentials (assuming you're not using eduroam for production .1X). Jeff On 11/12/2012 6:11 PM, Julian Y Koh wrote: > So we're looking at an eduroam deployment here, and one question that has come up is one of credentials. Here at NU, we have 2 identifiers - the NetID and the alias. All of the directories and the like are keyed off of the NetID, which does not have to be the same as the alias. Top-level email addresses take the form @northwestern.edu. > > Under a basic default eduroam deployment, a user would use @northwestern.edu as his/her username to authenticate to the wireless network. This is not 100% ideal from an end user point of view, though, since that could potentially lead to some confusion since at least here, netid rarely is the same as alias. Obviously, at some schools, netid = alias, so this is a moot point, but have other schools encountered support/documentation issues because of this? > > As an alternative, has anyone looking into using a subdomain for the realm? i.e., @eduroam.northwestern.edu? > > I tried going through the FAQs and documentation at , and there is some mention of avoiding subdomains at . > > Personally, I think with good enough documentation we should be able to do the standard @northwestern.edu without a lot of trouble, but we also need to do due diligence and explore these options. :) > > Thanks!! > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering. Lee Badman On Nov 12, 2012, at 18:27, "Jeff Kell" wrote: > Hey Julian, > > We recently went through this after cranking up eduroam officially this > past fall. We have similar points of confusion, plus a bonus. > > Our email addresses are first-last@utc.edu unless there are conflicts, > in which case we use a middle initial or a suffix. > > Our official "UTCid" is a rather arbitrary string (3 letters, 3 numbers, > where that came from don't ask me, it was back in the "no-SSNs" conversion). > > The directory key / userID is in fact the UTCid, and is typically used > as a login for everything. It's also the Active Directory ID. > > And now the bonus... the AD domain is in fact utc.tennessee.edu (we're > a "branch" of the state's tennessee.edu domain), so there's already some > confusion as to using the tennessee.edu versus utc.edu. Even worse... > there are root forest entries for utcID@tennessee.edu as well as > @utc.tennessee.edu. And of course UTK started the whole eduroam thing, > and they're already taking tennessee.edu as local :( although they still > take utk.edu as well. > > So we more or less got stuck with UTCid@utc.edu to avoid the > domain/realm confusion with the big orange one. > > I would advise you rig up your local .1X to authenticate with your > fully-qualified eduroam username, just so users can consistently login > with the same credentials (assuming you're not using eduroam for > production .1X). > > Jeff > > On 11/12/2012 6:11 PM, Julian Y Koh wrote: >> So we're looking at an eduroam deployment here, and one question that has come up is one of credentials. Here at NU, we have 2 identifiers - the NetID and the alias. All of the directories and the like are keyed off of the NetID, which does not have to be the same as the alias. Top-level email addresses take the form @northwestern.edu. >> >> Under a basic default eduroam deployment, a user would use @northwestern.edu as his/her username to authenticate to the wireless network. This is not 100% ideal from an end user point of view, though, since that could potentially lead to some confusion since at least here, netid rarely is the same as alias. Obviously, at some schools, netid = alias, so this is a moot point, but have other schools encountered support/documentation issues because of this? >> >> As an alternative, has anyone looking into using a subdomain for the realm? i.e., @eduroam.northwestern.edu? >> >> I tried going through the FAQs and documentation at , and there is some mention of avoiding subdomains at . >> >> Personally, I think with good enough documentation we should be able to do the standard @northwestern.edu without a lot of trouble, but we also need to do due diligence and explore these options. :) >> >> Thanks!! >> > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
In Nov 12, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: > I would advise you rig up your local .1X to authenticate with your > fully-qualified eduroam username, just so users can consistently login > with the same credentials (assuming you're not using eduroam for > production .1X). Sorry, what's the benefit of "not using eduroam for production .1X"? For us it is a key feature that the same wifi setup our people use here on campus will "just work" with absolutely no changes at any eduroam campus. (Of course, it does take some extra user training to get them to include the domain for their eduroam login but not for any other on-campus logins, but having a different production SSID wouldn't help any on that.) Steve Bohrer Network Admin Bard College at Simon's Rock 413-528-7645 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
On 11/12/2012 6:39 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: > Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being snarky, but genuinely wondering. Well, again, I have a biased answer. I think all of our (UT) campuses have eduroam available. If for no other benefit, it certainly makes inter-campus visits much more pleasant to have working wireless when you arrive :) And guest access requests from other UT visitors have dropped significantly. Most of the issues where it doesn't work is due to the visitor not having their device configured properly (certificate issues, or Windows defaulting to computer authentication via AD). We use XpressConnect for our dot-1X setup, and it uses the same Radius server as eduroam. If you are setup for our dot-1X, eduroam will just work. If you are not, it probably won't. The certificate checks are against your home server, regardless of where you actually are connecting from. I don't have accurate statistics at the moment as we are currently dropping eduroam folks into a wireless role shared by another group or two (plan to adjust that soon). Jeff ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
... We have the stats but are not publishing institution specific them for privacy reasons. http://www.eduroamus.org/node/232 I have testimonials from Schools like UCSD and UChicago that immediately noticed hundreds of visitors on their campuses. Drexel University, for instance, had 40 eduroam users the first day they turned the SSID on. In general large institutions are amazed at how many eduroam visitors they have on campus. This said, the largest benefit is to make your campus population compatible with locations that heavily use eduroam (e.g. if your study abroad students go to Europe or Australia). There are places in Europe that make very difficult to use anything else than eduroam. To answer the "using eduroam as the main 1X network", we have seen schools doing that very successfully. (your are definitely ready to roam...just by using it at your school) Here at UT Knoxville, we have opted to still keep the UTK branded 1x network and the eduroam network together for a while with the idea of getting rid of the UTK 1x (called ut-wpa2) in the future. In reality this is just a beaconing difference...in the back we resolve people that join eduroam with @utk.edu credentials to the exact same VLANs as the people joining ut-wpa2. To answer the sub-domain question: we pass to your University everything in the form @*.university.edu So you decide what to do. If you have alias issues, in some cases, an installer like Xpressconnect can be very helpful Best Philippe Hanset www.eduroamus.org (eduroam is now an Internet2 NET+ Service)
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On 11/12/2012 6:39 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: > Does anyone keep stats on how much your Eduroam efforts get used? > Like, other than just being in the club, is it really providing > benefits that an easy-to-use guest network wouldn't? Not being > snarky, but genuinely wondering. We don't have any officially generated stats but a quick check of the numbers for this month shows we've had about 2000 traditional guests and 500 eduroam guests. The advantage eduroam guests had is that they were pre-approved before coming to campus and their devices were already setup. Our guest system is a little clunky and could use some cleanup, but it will never "just work" like eduroam does for it's users. We also get good feedback from our faculty and staff who visit other institutions, and that is hard to quantify with stats. So far this month about 150 of our folks have authenticated at other eduroam sites. -Karl ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Nah, just like to understand the benefit before making changes. Trying to gage how many nomadic WLAN users are really roaming from school to school, as opposed to users connecting to it on their own campus. Seems like a fair exercise:) Sent from an Etch-a-Sketch. Please excuse squiggly lines. On Nov 12, 2012, at 19:44, "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: >
Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose. Can we get that by Friday? On Nov 12, 2012, at 21:36, "Lee H Badman" wrote: > Nah, just like to understand the benefit before making changes. Trying to gage how many nomadic WLAN users are really roaming from school to school, as opposed to users connecting to it on their own campus. Seems like a fair exercise:) > > Sent from an Etch-a-Sketch. Please excuse squiggly lines. > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 19:44, "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: > >>
On 11/12/2012 9:41 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: > Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose. > > Can we get that by Friday? Ah hah... it's a battle of the Oranges :) If you have separate SSIDs you can get better statistics, I suppose; but perhaps your Radius can drop them in different buckets. For us it was a combination of things, primarily having our production 1X being NAC-enforced and role-based (requiring an agent, and proxying Radius through the NAC controller), whereas the eduroam SSID is off-the-grid (and also locked down by the eduroam firewall recommendations). Jeff ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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We keep statistics for eduroam, have attached graphs of monthly unique users for viewing. May 2011 had a large spike, this was a single person who had a new randomly generated outer identity for every authentication. We have considered just using eduroam as an SSID, but there is definitely a preference internally to keep some branding in the air. We also border with another University, if we only offered eduroam then there could be some big issues for users who get good signal from both networks. The final point of interest on that is quality of service. Do people implement a different qos for eduroam over their own network? I'm not sure on implementing qos for radius assigned networks within 1 SSID, e.g. within wireless can vlan x be provided with a different qos than vlan y for a given SSID. Not something we've ever looked into. -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800 -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2012 1:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s) Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose. Can we get that by Friday? On Nov 12, 2012, at 21:36, "Lee H Badman" wrote: > Nah, just like to understand the benefit before making changes. Trying > to gage how many nomadic WLAN users are really roaming from school to > school, as opposed to users connecting to it on their own campus. > Seems like a fair exercise:) > > Sent from an Etch-a-Sketch. Please excuse squiggly lines. > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 19:44, "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: > >>
Done. It's called 802.11u which is now part of 802.11 The SSID will soon be irrelevant anyway. All you will do is a Roaming Operator challenge! Philippe
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Jason, attached is Scott Armitage's slides from the GN3 Symposium in October (also in cc is case he isn't subscribed to this list). He's worked on the "Russel Square" Problem which might be similar to your "North Terrace Campus" Problem and help isolate UniSA and CSIRO users to their preferred home network. At the moment only wpa_suppliant has the configuration options to prefer a particular home realm - and it isn't available in GUI configuration or .mobileconfig options. If anyone has contacts at Apple, Microsoft etc to expose these configuration options it would be great to talk. These configuration options will ease some of the pain of "eduroam" SSIDs in close proximity to each other from different operators. -Brook On 13/11/12 5:33 AM, Jason Cook wrote: > We keep statistics for eduroam, have attached graphs of monthly unique users for viewing. > > May 2011 had a large spike, this was a single person who had a new randomly generated outer identity for every authentication. > > We have considered just using eduroam as an SSID, but there is definitely a preference internally to keep some branding in the air. We also border with another University, if we only offered eduroam then there could be some big issues for users who get good signal from both networks. > > The final point of interest on that is quality of service. Do people implement a different qos for eduroam over their own network? > I'm not sure on implementing qos for radius assigned networks within 1 SSID, e.g. within wireless can vlan x be provided with a different qos than vlan y for a given SSID. Not something we've ever looked into. > > -- > Jason Cook > Technology Services > The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 > Ph : +61 8 8313 4800 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman > Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2012 1:12 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s) > > Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose. > > Can we get that by Friday? > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 21:36, "Lee H Badman" wrote: > >> Nah, just like to understand the benefit before making changes. Trying >> to gage how many nomadic WLAN users are really roaming from school to >> school, as opposed to users connecting to it on their own campus. >> Seems like a fair exercise:) >> >> Sent from an Etch-a-Sketch. Please excuse squiggly lines. >> >> On Nov 12, 2012, at 19:44, "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: >> >>>
On the metrics, is there any way of showing how many of the Eduroam clients are bona ride visitors versus your own clients on the Eduroam SSID? That's the real delta I'm curious about in general- how many true visitors using it. Thanks, Lee Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 ________________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jason Cook [jason.cook@ADELAIDE.EDU.AU] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:33 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s) We keep statistics for eduroam, have attached graphs of monthly unique users for viewing. May 2011 had a large spike, this was a single person who had a new randomly generated outer identity for every authentication. We have considered just using eduroam as an SSID, but there is definitely a preference internally to keep some branding in the air. We also border with another University, if we only offered eduroam then there could be some big issues for users who get good signal from both networks. The final point of interest on that is quality of service. Do people implement a different qos for eduroam over their own network? I'm not sure on implementing qos for radius assigned networks within 1 SSID, e.g. within wireless can vlan x be provided with a different qos than vlan y for a given SSID. Not something we've ever looked into. -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph : +61 8 8313 4800 -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2012 1:12 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam question(s) Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose. Can we get that by Friday? On Nov 12, 2012, at 21:36, "Lee H Badman" wrote: > Nah, just like to understand the benefit before making changes. Trying > to gage how many nomadic WLAN users are really roaming from school to > school, as opposed to users connecting to it on their own campus. > Seems like a fair exercise:) > > Sent from an Etch-a-Sketch. Please excuse squiggly lines. > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 19:44, "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: > >>
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 18:34 , "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: > > To answer the sub-domain question: we pass to your University everything in the form @*.university.edu > So you decide what to do. But that's still not recommended as per the eduroam best practices? Is there a requirement that the university.edu match what we actually use? i.e., could we do something like nu-eduroam.edu instead of northwestern.edu? (note: I'm not saying that would be a good idea, just trying to understand what's possible :) ) -- Julian Y. Koh Manager, Network Transport, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: PGP Public Key: ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
For sanity, we will only pass to you *.northwestern.edu or other domains that you own and would like to be resolved e.g northwestern-1.edu
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James, That's a cool graph. What tool(s) did you use to create it? Thanks. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa Phone: 319 384-0938 Fax: 319 335-2951 Mobile: 319 540-2081 E-Mail: neil-johnson@uiowa.edu On 11/13/12 5:26 AM, "James JJ Hooper" wrote: >>
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 20:55, Jeff Kell wrote: > On 11/12/2012 9:41 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: >> Also... Does anyone get a bit turned off about having yet another SSID in the air, or debranding your own in favor of pushing Eduroam as your SSID? Again, just wondering. Let's task Phillipe with figuring out a way to make the Eduroam underpinnings work automagically with any SSID we choose. >> >> Can we get that by Friday? > > Ah hah... it's a battle of the Oranges :) > > If you have separate SSIDs you can get better statistics, I suppose; but > perhaps your Radius can drop them in different buckets. For us it was a > combination of things, primarily having our production 1X being > NAC-enforced and role-based (requiring an agent, and proxying Radius > through the NAC controller), whereas the eduroam SSID is off-the-grid > (and also locked down by the eduroam firewall recommendations). We have separate Eduroam and local (IllinoisNet) .1x networks. Partly because we had already fully deployed, documented and pushed the IllinoisNet SSID, and partly because we treat Eduroam differently. Our security group didn't want the Eduroam SSID on the same network with all our campus users, and our Eduroam deployment has all the required ports open, but not any extra. That way when people travel to other schools, they're never disappointed by what works -- anything they test on Eduroam here before they leave should work anywhere. We don't have a large number of Eduroam users, Champaign-Urbana is pretty much in the middle of no-where (unlike Chicago locations :-), but we get a small but somewhat regular set of happy emails from our own faculty and from visitors saying that they were traveling (or visiting) and Eduroam "just worked" for them. Since it's not a heavy support load for us, it's a nice thing to be able to provide. Additionally, we don't have a unified SSID across our campuses (each campus does it's own IT support), and since we already had Eduroam, the other campuses are doing that (have done that?) so that staff that do move between campuses have an easy way to do so. > > Jeff > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- -debbie Debbie Fligor, n9dn Lead Network Engineer, CITES, Univ. of Il email: fligor@illinois.edu "Every keystroke can be monitored. And the computers never forget." ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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All our data is taken from radius records (because WCS/NCS/Prime/[insert future name here] doesn't give us the reporting we want and probably never will), this gives us UID, MAC address's, IP address, time stamps, role (student/staff/visitor) which are imported into a home built database for querying. So it doesn't matter what SSID they connect to. eduroam visitors are flagged as such, and their domain is attached to the user id, the outer identities can cause some data to not match up, but I don't think we can control that and apart from that 1 month it's been minimal. An eduroam visitor could connect to our UofA network and still get authenticated via the eduroam system, and they'll show up as an eduroam visitor for statistics. We also have a dhcp server sitting there just doing fingerprinting(never sends a response), this information is yet to be imported to our database. But we can pull a list of macs from the DB and run that past the finger printer logs to provide operating system stats for any or all users types. A 30 day snapshot of eduroam visitors by country domain below. It'd be nice to have time to get some live images up like others have done. 981 au 26 uk 18 de 12 edu 8 nl 4 dk 3 hk 3 fr 2 za 2 se 2 ca 1 si 1 pt 1 nz 1 es 1 cz -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800
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Thanks Brook, looks interesting will check it out in more detail. -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800
On Nov 13, 2012, at 09:11 , "Hanset, Philippe C" wrote: > > For sanity, we will only pass to you *.northwestern.edu or other domains that you own and would like to be resolved e.gnorthwestern-1.edu Are there any stats available as to how many institutions are using a different eduroam domain than their regular top-level DNS domain? I'm thinking about tossing together a quick surveymonkey survey to collect some of this info if it's not available. -- Julian Y. Koh Manager, Network Transport, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: PGP Public Key: ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Julian, I can answer that for you. All Universities connected to the eduroam-US server are only using domains that they own, and in the form *.domainowned.edu. Some use multiple domains (e.g. utk.edu and tennessee.edu), but all are owned by the University. Best, Philippe Hanset www.eduroamus.org
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