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The 802.11ac supports 1.3GB, but the AP only has a 1GB wired connection. 802.11ac with 4x4 multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) technology with three spatial streams, offering sustained 1.3-Gbps rates over a greater range for more capacity and reliability than competing access points. Interfaces € 10/100/1000BASE-T autosensing (RJ-45) € Management console port (RJ-45)
You can't do a direct apples to oranges comparison between wired and wireless bandwidth. Remember, that wired connection is one gig in each direction for an aggregate of two gig of bandwidth, compared with the total half duplex 1.3 (in ideal conditions) on wave 1.
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Tony Juarez <ajuarez@UCHICAGO.EDU> wrote:

The 802.11ac supports 1.3GB, but the AP only has a 1GB wired connection.


802.11ac with 4x4 multiple-input multiple-output
(MIMO) technology with three spatial streams, offering sustained
1.3-Gbps rates over a greater range for more capacity and reliability
than competing access points.



Interfaces
€ 10/100/1000BASE-T autosensing (RJ-45)

€ Management console port (RJ-45)







I agree, especially since there likely aren't any clients capable of 4 streams. I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that though. Seems like new Macs would be most likely possibilities as they do tend to be ahead on these types of things in spite of all their other wireless issues. Pete Morrissey Sent from my iPad
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We may buy a few of these, however we are still working to replace our 1131's and finish rolling out 802.11n. I will be curious to see how the price of these compare to a 3600 + 802.11ac module. Andy -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:09 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3700 AP I agree, especially since there likely aren't any clients capable of 4 streams. I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that though. Seems like new Macs would be most likely possibilities as they do tend to be ahead on these types of things in spite of all their other wireless issues. Pete Morrissey Sent from my iPad
New Macbook Air's already have 802.11ac radios. If you have 3560X PoEs, you're all set since they do PoE+. -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont (Ph) 802.656.8111 dbrisson@uvm.edu On 10/4/13 8:09 AM, Peter P Morrissey wrote: > I agree, especially since there likely aren't any clients capable of 4 streams. I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that though. Seems like new Macs would be most likely possibilities as they do tend to be ahead on these types of things in spite of all their other wireless issues. > > Pete Morrissey > > Sent from my iPad > >
Right. But do they do 4x4? Pete -----Original Message----- From: Dan Brisson [mailto:dbrisson@uvm.edu] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:39 AM To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Cc: Peter P Morrissey Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3700 AP New Macbook Air's already have 802.11ac radios. If you have 3560X PoEs, you're all set since they do PoE+. -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont (Ph) 802.656.8111 dbrisson@uvm.edu On 10/4/13 8:09 AM, Peter P Morrissey wrote: > I agree, especially since there likely aren't any clients capable of 4 streams. I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that though. Seems like new Macs would be most likely possibilities as they do tend to be ahead on these types of things in spite of all their other wireless issues. > > Pete Morrissey > > Sent from my iPad > >
This says Macbook Air chipset can do 3 streams but is configured to use 2. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7085/the-2013-macbook-air-review-13inch/9 Randy Ethridge Network Engineer V Information Services Eastern Illinois University rlethridge@eiu.edu Office Ph. 217-581-7640 Proud to say "I am EIU" EIU THINKS GREEN: Before printing this e-mail think if it is necessary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter P Morrissey" To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:00:00 AM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3700 AP Right. But do they do 4x4? Pete -----Original Message----- From: Dan Brisson [mailto:dbrisson@uvm.edu] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:39 AM To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Cc: Peter P Morrissey Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3700 AP New Macbook Air's already have 802.11ac radios. If you have 3560X PoEs, you're all set since they do PoE+. -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont (Ph) 802.656.8111 dbrisson@uvm.edu On 10/4/13 8:09 AM, Peter P Morrissey wrote: > I agree, especially since there likely aren't any clients capable of 4 streams. I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that though. Seems like new Macs would be most likely possibilities as they do tend to be ahead on these types of things in spite of all their other wireless issues. > > Pete Morrissey > > Sent from my iPad > >
Agree, PHY data rates and IP throughput are not the same. Even in Wave 2, the requirement for 160MHz wide channels makes >1Gbps (actual) questionable. You will not oversubscribe your 1Gig wired connection with Wave 1 802.11ac devices.

-----The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> wrote: -----

To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
From: Frank Sweetser <fs@WPI.EDU>
Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: 10/03/2013 06:54PM
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3700 AP

You can't do a direct apples to oranges comparison between wired and wireless bandwidth. Remember, that wired connection is one gig in each direction for an aggregate of two gig of bandwidth, compared with the total half duplex 1.3 (in ideal conditions) on wave 1.
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Tony Juarez <ajuarez@UCHICAGO.EDU> wrote:

The 802.11ac supports 1.3GB, but the AP only has a 1GB wired connection.


802.11ac with 4x4 multiple-input multiple-output
(MIMO) technology with three spatial streams, offering sustained
1.3-Gbps rates over a greater range for more capacity and reliability
than competing access points.



Interfaces
€ 10/100/1000BASE-T autosensing (RJ-45)

€ Management console port (RJ-45)







Absolutely, PI is killing an otherwise great solution

 

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Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Brisson
Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 7:57 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SV: Cisco 3700 AP

 

Double Amen!!!!

 

-dan

 

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Yeah, Prime stinks amazingly for something so hyped.

 

But I will share that it will stink about 1% less if you use Chrome (vs. Firefox). This is for Prime 1.4 (we’re running 7.5.102) with the Chrome patch applied.

 

 

Kitri Waterman

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Network Engineer

Information Services

University of Oregon

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:33 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SV: Cisco 3700 AP

 

Absolutely, PI is killing an otherwise great solution

 

--

Jason Cook

Technology Services

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Brisson
Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 7:57 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SV: Cisco 3700 AP

 

Double Amen!!!!

 

-dan

 

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