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Hi

 

I apologize for the off-topic post, but I find this an excellent resource for Higher Ed folks, and can’t seem to find a more appropriate/engaged mailing list for this topic in higher-ed and thought maybe some people would have some thoughts they could share off-line via direct email.


We’re basically looking at moving to a new data center and are debating Citrix vs VM-Ware vs Microsoft Hyper-V. We’re not doing anything too crazy (ie, not running redundant clusters across a WAN, etc..) and it seems like any of these 3 could meet our needs from a functionality perspective. Basically we need a some servers and some disk.  We haven’t dove into the pricing too deep yet but at first glance, with the discounts we get from Microsoft because of our HigherED licensing, it seems much cheaper.

 

I know I saw a lot of higher ed institutions move to Forefront for AV, and this seems like another one of those areas, where the discounts given by Microsoft make it worth looking at, even if it’s not the #1 player in the market. I could see where if we had a significant investment in one or the other that would factor in, but where our switching costs are low because we’re essentially starting new, I thought I’d check here for any advice/warnings/gotchas

 

Again, I apologize for the off-topic post, and please reply directly to me at matt.ashfield@nbcc.ca for any follow-up. Any feedback is much appreciated.

 

Thanks


Matt

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I have been running our production environment on Hyper-v since 2008 RC code was released.  No matter what the solution you have to pay for the Microsoft licensing on top of Citrix and VMWare.  With Hyper-v you only add the management piece as far as cost.  That is the only reason why we have been doing hyper-v for so long.

 

Thank you,

 

Lee Weers

Central College

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I’d just add that educational pricing on the Datacenter version of Server 2008 is not all that expensive per processor and it allows for unlimited Windows Server 2008 Ent/Std guest OS’s per host without additional licensing costs.  If you prefer to go with multiple smaller server hosts, the Enterprise version of 2008 allows for 4 2008 Std/Ent guests, per licensed host.

 

The following blog post explains this in a simple to understand format:

 

http://msmvps.com/blogs/virtualreality/archive/2009/04/01/hyper-v-licensing-explained.aspx

 

 

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Gavin Pyle | Network Engineer | Green River Community College

gpyle@greenriver.edu

 

The datacenter licensing also applies to VMware i.e. if you license it for all of your processors, you can run an unlimited number of virtual MS OS server guests.
Jeff

>>> On Monday, August 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM, in message <8DB9990ED5DA724C90675FE2362E666F01BFC6379E2C@ORCA.employee.grcc.edu>, Gavin Pyle <gpyle@GREENRIVER.EDU> wrote:

I’d just add that educational pricing on the Datacenter version of Server 2008 is not all that expensive per processor and it allows for unlimited Windows Server 2008 Ent/Std guest OS’s per host without additional licensing costs.  If you prefer to go with multiple smaller server hosts, the Enterprise version of 2008 allows for 4 2008 Std/Ent guests, per licensed host.

 

The following blog post explains this in a simple to understand format:

 

http://msmvps.com/blogs/virtualreality/archive/2009/04/01/hyper-v-licensing-explained.aspx

 

 

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Gavin Pyle | Network Engineer | Green River Community College

gpyle@greenriver.edu

 

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