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Hi all,
So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room.  Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc.

I know Smart Technologies.  Others?  I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there.  

Any inexpensive options?  Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems.

thanks...
allan

Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

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Allan We've installed a few of the Epson short-throw projectors. The installs are new but they've worked out well so far. http://www.epsonbrightlink.webengager.com/Education/BL475Wi_480i_485Wi.aspx Thanks, Paul Paul Steinhaus CIO chatham UNIVERSITY Woodland Road Pittsburgh, PA 15232 (412) 365-1606 : Phone (412) 365-1528 : Fax http://www.chatham.edu From: Allan Chen > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Instructional Technologies Constituent Group Listserv > Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:12 PM To: "INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" > Subject: [INSTTECH] meeting/conference room smart boards Hi all, So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room. Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc. I know Smart Technologies. Others? I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there. Any inexpensive options? Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems. thanks... allan Chief Information Officer Menlo College 1000 El Camino Real Atherton, CA 94027 v: 650-543-3889 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

I don’t own one but for whiteboard capture you could look into http://www.mimio.com/en-NA/Products/MimioBoard-Interactive-Whiteboard.aspx  I saw one demonstrated a bit ago & it seems to be a great alternative to mounting a smart type board. 

If you do want to put up a board you could look into the http://www.einstruction.com/products/interactive-whiteboards I have several of their Dualboards & they have worked OK over the years.

 

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Ron Balko

Learning Technologies Coordinator

Concordia College

Moorhead, MN

 

Feed the projectors a hardwired network connection to have the option to project-over-IP from notebook computers, iPads and tablets connected via Wi-Fi.
 
For best functionality, have a Windows 8 tablet with an active digitizer screen that supports a precision tablet pen and digital ink; then, you will have a mobile “smartboard” to pass around and hold in your hands.
 
Epson has the best cross-platform network projection technology, in my experience.
 
--- Ed Garay
www.twitter.com/garay
Google+: http://gplus.to/garay

Sent from a Microsoft Surface Windows tablet
 
All - thanks.  

Ed - you say a Windows 8 tablet since it's a full-fledged computer OS?  

And with the Epson, I'd hard-wire them, but then be able to connect to them over Wi-Fi, right?  Any special VLAN stuff that needs to happen?  I haven't tried these network connections to projectors before.  Is it special software?

allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


You might like the Sharp Aquos board - interactive flat screen. Good Luck.

http://www.sharpusa.com/forbusiness/presentationproducts/aquosboard.aspx

Benjamin Wofford
Fuller Seminary

"The Kids" have for some time simply been snapping pix of the whiteboard with their smart phones and then taking the images into whatever program they like.

So if you're looking for inexpensive options. . .

In our college of education and human services we had to purchase Promethean for two classrooms.  We had Samrt earlier and we added Promethean because most of our school divisions used Promthean.  We wanted our pre-service teachers to be comfortable in integrating software.  Both companies have software implementation in addition to integration of formative assessment tools.
mano


Message from cgj@email.arizona.edu

On a slightly related question, does anyone have experience with Infocus' Mondopads [http://www.infocus.com/mondopad]?  We are looking in to them for use in connecting distance-based meeting and seminar rooms.

Chris

_________________________________________________________

Christopher Johnson, Ph.D. (RL)     
ScubaChris Wollongong (SL)
Skype: cnovodvorsky
Twitter: AzScubaChris

email: cgj@u.arizona.edu
Assistant Professor, Educational Technology
The University of Arizona South
Chair, Faculty Advisory Committee, Classroom Technology Update Project
University of Arizona
Phone: 520.991.7304

_________________________________________________________

“I never teach my pupils; I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn.”
– Albert Einstein

If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn't call it research.
– Albert Einstein

From: Allan Chen <achen@MENLO.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Instructional Technologies Constituent Group Listserv <INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:12 AM
To: "INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [INSTTECH] meeting/conference room smart boards

Hi all,
So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room.  Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc.

I know Smart Technologies.  Others?  I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there.  

Any inexpensive options?  Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems.

thanks...
allan

Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Hi all,
With these short-throw projectors, have you had any hot spots on the projection surface?  If, say, it's a white board or maybe with dry erase paint?

The demo I saw at Educause of the Epsons was on a very-slightly textured surface.  I wonder if a smooth one would lead to a hotspot.

thanks,
allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Hi all,
So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room.  Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc.

I know Smart Technologies.  Others?  I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there.  

Any inexpensive options?  Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems.

thanks...
allan

Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

Allan We've installed a few of the Epson short-throw projectors. The installs are new but they've worked out well so far. http://www.epsonbrightlink.webengager.com/Education/BL475Wi_480i_485Wi.aspx Thanks, Paul Paul Steinhaus CIO chatham UNIVERSITY Woodland Road Pittsburgh, PA 15232 (412) 365-1606 : Phone (412) 365-1528 : Fax http://www.chatham.edu From: Allan Chen > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Instructional Technologies Constituent Group Listserv > Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:12 PM To: "INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" > Subject: [INSTTECH] meeting/conference room smart boards Hi all, So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room. Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc. I know Smart Technologies. Others? I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there. Any inexpensive options? Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems. thanks... allan Chief Information Officer Menlo College 1000 El Camino Real Atherton, CA 94027 v: 650-543-3889 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

I don’t own one but for whiteboard capture you could look into http://www.mimio.com/en-NA/Products/MimioBoard-Interactive-Whiteboard.aspx  I saw one demonstrated a bit ago & it seems to be a great alternative to mounting a smart type board. 

If you do want to put up a board you could look into the http://www.einstruction.com/products/interactive-whiteboards I have several of their Dualboards & they have worked OK over the years.

 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Ron Balko

Learning Technologies Coordinator

Concordia College

Moorhead, MN

 

Feed the projectors a hardwired network connection to have the option to project-over-IP from notebook computers, iPads and tablets connected via Wi-Fi.
 
For best functionality, have a Windows 8 tablet with an active digitizer screen that supports a precision tablet pen and digital ink; then, you will have a mobile “smartboard” to pass around and hold in your hands.
 
Epson has the best cross-platform network projection technology, in my experience.
 
--- Ed Garay
www.twitter.com/garay
Google+: http://gplus.to/garay

Sent from a Microsoft Surface Windows tablet
 
All - thanks.  

Ed - you say a Windows 8 tablet since it's a full-fledged computer OS?  

And with the Epson, I'd hard-wire them, but then be able to connect to them over Wi-Fi, right?  Any special VLAN stuff that needs to happen?  I haven't tried these network connections to projectors before.  Is it special software?

allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


Yes, a Windows 8 (not RT) tablet to be able to run all Windows software and  an active digitizer multi-touch screen that supports a fine-point tablet pen for handwriting, annotating, drawing or just driving the tablet with a high precision stylus.  Active digitizer multi-touch screens also support conventional touch with your fingers and those fat and awkward styli that work on iPads, Android tablets, and Windows RT Tablets and laptops.

There are several good Windows 8 tablets with an active digitizer multi-touch screen: the Microsoft Surface Pro, the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2, the HP Elite Pad 900 and the Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro. 

Hardwiring the projector gives them the most bandwidth, and the projector's built-in or optional Wireless option enables them to support projection over Wi-Fi, which works well for driving the computer, annotating, handwriting, Web browsing and doing anything except, perhaps, projecting video over IP -- it works, but the quality may not be as good as projecting video off a network computer directly connected to a projector via HDMI, DisplayPort or VGA cable.  For anything else, projection-over-IP works very well and along with a lightweight tablet and digital ink, it facilitates for more comfortable, natural and dynamic meetings and computer-driven presentations.

Depending on the projector make and model, there may be a little piece of software that you will need to install on the tablets and laptops to be able to project-over-IP. The software, if any, comes with the projector's Wireless Option -- years ago, only Windows project-over-IP software was available, but now many projector manufacturers support Macs, iPads and even Android devices, Epson, still being the best at this, in my opinion.

Greetings from Chicago,

--- Ed Garay
IPad.

On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Allan Chen <achen@MENLO.EDU> wrote:

All - thanks.  

Ed - you say a Windows 8 tablet since it's a full-fledged computer OS?  

And with the Epson, I'd hard-wire them, but then be able to connect to them over Wi-Fi, right?  Any special VLAN stuff that needs to happen?  I haven't tried these network connections to projectors before.  Is it special software?

allan


Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889


You might like the Sharp Aquos board - interactive flat screen. Good Luck.

http://www.sharpusa.com/forbusiness/presentationproducts/aquosboard.aspx

Benjamin Wofford
Fuller Seminary

"The Kids" have for some time simply been snapping pix of the whiteboard with their smart phones and then taking the images into whatever program they like.

So if you're looking for inexpensive options. . .

Message from longpd@mit.edu

Paul: the two leading ‘others’ are Prometheus and then a slew of projector options, led by Epson whose short-throw projectors have a software options that allows for whiteboard functions.

Prometheus is probably a bit slicker and has a wider set of options (4 simultaneous users on the same whiteboard, for example, writing on different parts of it and all properly captured and identified). The down side is they want to do the installation themselves (you or your AV organisation can’t do it for them).  

Epson is what a lot of AV groups are excited about - in part because it comes from “their community” and is fundamentally a software enhancement to the increasingly IP focused projector ’system’. It appears to be relatively good but still with restricted functionality. If you don’t need much more than writing on the projected surface this might suffice nicely.

Regards,
Phil


Professor Phillip D. Long, Director, Centre for Educational Innovation and Technology
Learning Innovation Building 4-415, The University of Queensland, St Lucia, Brisbane,
Queensland 4072, Australia, Phone: +61 07 3346 6283, Email: longpd@uq.edu.au  personal: http://about.me/longpd

On 23/02/2013, at 4:12 AM, Allan Chen <achen@MENLO.EDU> wrote:

Hi all,
So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room.  Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc.

I know Smart Technologies.  Others?  I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there.  

Any inexpensive options?  Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems.

thanks...
allan

Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.


********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.


********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

In our college of education and human services we had to purchase Promethean for two classrooms.  We had Samrt earlier and we added Promethean because most of our school divisions used Promthean.  We wanted our pre-service teachers to be comfortable in integrating software.  Both companies have software implementation in addition to integration of formative assessment tools.
mano


Message from cgj@email.arizona.edu

On a slightly related question, does anyone have experience with Infocus' Mondopads [http://www.infocus.com/mondopad]?  We are looking in to them for use in connecting distance-based meeting and seminar rooms.

Chris

_________________________________________________________

Christopher Johnson, Ph.D. (RL)     
ScubaChris Wollongong (SL)
Skype: cnovodvorsky
Twitter: AzScubaChris

email: cgj@u.arizona.edu
Assistant Professor, Educational Technology
The University of Arizona South
Chair, Faculty Advisory Committee, Classroom Technology Update Project
University of Arizona
Phone: 520.991.7304

_________________________________________________________

“I never teach my pupils; I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn.”
– Albert Einstein

If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn't call it research.
– Albert Einstein

From: Allan Chen <achen@MENLO.EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Instructional Technologies Constituent Group Listserv <INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:12 AM
To: "INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [INSTTECH] meeting/conference room smart boards

Hi all,
So...got a request for a smart board for a meeting room or conference room.  Something people can project to but also do quick drawings with capture, etc.

I know Smart Technologies.  Others?  I haven't gotten a chance to look at these for a little bit so I'm not sure what's out there.  

Any inexpensive options?  Since this is going into a relatively controlled space we don't have to have the "rock-solid" nature of some of the higher end systems.

thanks...
allan

Chief Information Officer
Menlo College
1000 El Camino Real
Atherton, CA 94027
v: 650-543-3889
********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.

We have installations of both Smart and Promethean boards. Both have advantages but the driving force for Promethean installs seems to be for Education and getting future teachers familiar with the tools they find in K-12. In regards to installation, Promethean can be pretty strict on their installation requirements but if you plan to install a lot of these, you can have your staff trained by Promethean to do the installations (they will get certified).

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Instructional Technologies Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mano Talaiver
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:51 AM
To: INSTTECH@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [INSTTECH] meeting/conference room smart boards

 

In our college of education and human services we had to purchase Promethean for two classrooms.  We had Samrt earlier and we added Promethean because most of our school divisions used Promthean.  We wanted our pre-service teachers to be comfortable in integrating software.  Both companies have software implementation in addition to integration of formative assessment tools.

mano

 

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