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Can anyone recommend an affordable alternative for an edge router?  Now that we are beyond the 100 Mb barrier the price of Gb routing is a shocker, especially when we only have 2 entries in our routing table.

We have a multi-hommed internet connection VIA BGP but I hate to drop $20k on two routers that are just passing packets along and not having to make any major routing decisions.

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pfSense Vyatta -Brian ________________________________________
pfSense + CARP ~Patrick
pfSense here too. We actually use a CARP pair for NAT just inside a pair of Cisco 7201s but the maintenance and purchase costs of those devices have made us rethink that strategy. We are pushing 200mb/s (in both directions) on HP DL360 G4s that were second-hand. Very inexpensive solution that allowed us to afford professional support and the book for pfSense which have both proven invaluable. ________________________________ Ian Bergeron - M.Ed, ACTC, ACMT, Net+ Administrator of Networked Systems MCLA Computer Support Services Office:(413)662-5394 - Cell:(413)663-0957 Ian.Bergeron@mcla.edu The EDUCAUSE Network Management Constituent Group Listserv writes: >Can anyone recommend an affordable alternative for an edge router?  Now >that we are beyond the 100 Mb barrier the price of Gb routing is a >shocker, especially when we only have 2 entries in our routing table. > >We have a multi-hommed internet connection VIA BGP but I hate to drop >$20k on two routers that are just passing packets along and not having to >make any major routing decisions. > >Thanks > >********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Very interesting. Speaking of open source is anyone using Asterisk? We are looking at it. John Kaftan IT Infrastructure Manager Utica College 315.792.3102
We are using Asterisk for Voicemail, Call Conferencing, and IVRs. The two Asterisk VM servers connect to our Cisco UCM servers via SIP. Very stable and easy to administer over the course of the two years we've been using them. Brian


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Ian Bergeron --- Re: [NETMAN] Edge routers ---

From:"Ian Bergeron" <Ian.Bergeron@MCLA.EDU>
ToNETMAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Date:Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:43 AM
SubjectRe: [NETMAN] Edge routers

pfSense here too. We actually use a CARP pair for NAT just inside a pair of Cisco 7201s but the maintenance and purchase costs of those devices have made us rethink that strategy. We are pushing 200mb/s (in both directions) on HP DL360 G4s that were second-hand. Very inexpensive solution that allowed us to afford professional support and the book for pfSense which have both proven invaluable. ________________________________ Ian Bergeron - M.Ed, ACTC, ACMT, Net+ Administrator of Networked Systems MCLA Computer Support Services Office:(413)662-5394 - Cell:(413)663-0957 Ian.Bergeron@mcla.edu The EDUCAUSE Network Management Constituent Group Listserv <NETMAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> writes: >Can anyone recommend an affordable alternative for an edge router?  Now >that we are beyond the 100 Mb barrier the price of Gb routing is a >shocker, especially when we only have 2 entries in our routing table. > >We have a multi-hommed internet connection VIA BGP but I hate to drop >$20k on two routers that are just passing packets along and not having to >make any major routing decisions. > >Thanks > >********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. __________________________________________________________________________
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 12:24:35AM -0400, jkaftan@utica.edu wrote: > Can anyone recommend an affordable alternative for an edge router? Now > that we are beyond the 100 Mb barrier the price of Gb routing is a > shocker, especially when we only have 2 entries in our routing table. FreeBSD + pf. Since you do BGP, OpenBGPd. pfSense is prettier but we have an entire /24 of IPs on each machine and it's a little simpler in pure FreeBSD (pfSense is FreeBSD + a sane web-based configuration tool + a few other goodies) to do some of the things we wanted to do. For example, the OS (and not pf) is responsible for the bridge that feeds our IDS - it took fifteen seconds to add that to a config file and bring up the bridge in real-time. For size comparison we use two servers to NAT 17k students, each student is allowed up to four devices, and we push our resnet visitor wireless traffic through there. Gig copper in, gig fiber out, gig copper bridge for the IDS. kmw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlBN46AACgkQsKMTOtQ3fKFQ8ACfZZl4bc6irpyjIrVVHmh4hZUf b7MAoKhqZgtz2DL9V0c2AMm7LE6iOZYd =uFbf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Don't rule out bringing your connections into an edge switch first and using dot1q tagging to put the two connections on different VLANs, then hanging the router off of that. This may eliminate your need for two routers, unless you like having two for redundancy.

Ubiquiti recently announced a new line of products (EdgeMax) that are designed for the edge.  I thought it was timely with this post.  EdgeMax is based on Vyatta (which is based on Debian Linux) with an Ubiquiti GUI and specialized MIPS hardware device.
 
Their first product has 3 x 1 Gbps line-rate ports (when using >512 byte packets), and it support many routing protocols.  All for under $100?  It is almost worth it to buy a pair just to play with, let alone replace a $20k purchase!
 
Cheers,
 
Tristan
 
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Tristan Rhodes
Network Engineer
Weber State University
(801) 626-8549

>>> On 9/7/2012 at 10:24 PM, in message <0MA000G7JK8K3000@maia.utica.edu>, jkaftan@utica.edu<jkaftan@UTICA.EDU> wrote:
Can anyone recommend an affordable alternative for an edge router?  Now that we are beyond the 100 Mb barrier the price of Gb routing is a shocker, especially when we only have 2 entries in our routing table.

We have a multi-hommed internet connection VIA BGP but I hate to drop $20k on two routers that are just passing packets along and not having to make any major routing decisions.

Thanks

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